Forum Posts: 20 | Comment #1 by RandyAghem Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 02:28:21 PM | |
| NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. |
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Forum Posts: 163 | Comment #2 by Peskens Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 02:29:56 PM | |
That's a shame for me.
But good for the people who like this game in Multiplayer.
I Hope there will be no hard online trophies. |
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Forum Posts: 113 | Comment #3 by Valkyrious Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 02:36:55 PM | |
| One after another =/ |
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Forum Posts: 328 | Comment #4 by Animal Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 02:45:28 PM | |
| Without more details I'm not going to make my mind up about the MP just yet. |
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Forum Posts: 494 | Comment #5 by TroubleMaker411 Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 02:46:57 PM | |
No. No. No. No. No. No
Just, fucking NO!
Seriously.
Is there any need or point in adding MP to tomb raider?
For fuck's sake. |
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Forum Posts: 38 | Comment #6 by h2foxo Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 02:51:40 PM | |
Pointless addition
Keep the trophies offline and no one will fully complain |
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Forum Posts: 34 | Comment #7 by Cloud418 Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 02:55:51 PM | |
| The moment I saw that God of War had multiplayer on it I knew no other game was safe. No surprise about Tomb Raider but still... |
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Forum Posts: 385 | Comment #8 by The Cosmic Suff Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 03:02:01 PM | |
| Im not surprised at all. Tbh if its anything like Guardian of Light and only coop I believe it can be alot of fun. |
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Forum Posts: 144 | Comment #9 by EmptyFibers Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 03:04:52 PM | |
| Pointless idiocy.... |
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Forum Posts: 272 | Comment #10 by Naulziator Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 03:07:16 PM | |
This. Game. Is. In. Unacceptable. Condition.
UNACCEPTABAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL!!!! |
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Forum Posts: 1942 | Comment #11 by Donkey-er Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 03:10:38 PM | |
| WTF?! this is the last game that needs multiplayer... |
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Forum Posts: 3879 | Comment #12 by Aidan Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 03:14:19 PM | |
Some of you people are seriously crying over additional, optional features that do nothing but increase the value of the game, the sales of the game (and therefor the success of the developers), and the longevity of the game.
Amazing. |
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Forum Posts: 307 | Comment #13 by nycking Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 03:24:03 PM | |
| So what is this going to be? Another Uncharted multiplayer clone? Probably just the usual co-op with people on your friend's list. I'll have to check it out. |
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Forum Posts: 2928 | Comment #14 by jvaferreira Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 03:34:36 PM | |
| Of course it has... what game will have multiplayer next, God of War... oh wait! |
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Forum Posts: 116 | Comment #15 by Exedome Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 03:40:08 PM | |
| Indeed. What the actual fuck?! |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #16 by RickNU Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 03:47:26 PM | |
| I think every games need multiplayer, but online trophies, in my view they are unnecessary |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #17 by Uchiha Itachi Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 04:04:30 PM | |
#16 not evey game needs multiplayer, examples Bioshock 2,Dead Space 2 they have MP but for no reason this one is no exception its not like a shooter or sport game that you expect to have.#12 they are not crying becuase they will add additional content but becuase they might take time form SP to make the MP
and that will not make SP to its full potential(that's what i balieve at least). |
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Forum Posts: 686 | Comment #18 by SmithyReborn86 Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 04:27:53 PM | |
| Stupid move if you ask me the game is big enough and established enough it does not need MP im getting sick and tired of developers who seem to think they just need to add it FFS. |
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Forum Posts: 3879 | Comment #19 by Aidan Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 04:34:54 PM | |
#17, no. Time is never taken from SP to make MP. Budget is increased. Different teams work on SP/MP, etc. This is why both teams work simultaneously. The only thing it does is create more jobs, technically, which is a good thing.
If you don't like MP, don't play it. Simple. |
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Forum Posts: 22 | Comment #20 by netbean Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 04:36:52 PM | |
| please no pointless online grind trophies! if it's as good as the uncharted MP then i'll be happy, squeenix better not screw it up... |
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Forum Posts: 50 | Comment #21 by Wiggiie Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 04:48:37 PM | |
| If its Co-Op Im more then happy, imo all games should have a co-op mode these days, All games are soo much more fun to play toghter rather then by yourself. Happy face from me, fingers crossed it will be co-op =) |
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Forum Posts: 19 | Comment #22 by Yowza Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 04:49:46 PM | |
| It's to be expected, unfortunately. Why would you need an online pass if there's no online? |
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Forum Posts: 160 | Comment #23 by Sonic204 Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 05:02:50 PM | |
| Another one bites the dust~ |
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Forum Posts: 28 | Comment #24 by NazTheTech Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 05:05:12 PM | |
| Oh what the fuck. |
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Forum Posts: 31 | Comment #25 by chavito Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 05:06:35 PM | |
| they really need to screw every f*cking game with multiplayer?? |
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Forum Posts: 35 | Comment #26 by painterkilla Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 05:11:49 PM | |
| We've already got Uncharted, so no thanks. |
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Forum Posts: 213 | Comment #27 by CaptainSellers Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 05:39:01 PM | |
| Great, first regenerating health in a survival game, now tacked on MP? My hype for this game keeps getting lower and lower. |
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Forum Posts: 1118 | Comment #28 by BeardedBushMan Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 05:40:51 PM | |
I'm all for co-op in most games, but it's hit and miss when it's competitive mp modes.
And the last couple of Tomb Raider games really haven't been that great, so I don't see how this addition could hurt it. :) |
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Forum Posts: 10 | Comment #29 by FatalKrouzer Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 05:42:39 PM | |
| Guys relax, its most likely just co-op :) |
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Forum Posts: 9544 | Comment #30 by k1ll1ng5pr33 Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 05:47:29 PM | |
Don't really mind MP, as long as it just isn't tacked on.
For all we know it's just co-op, which could be fun. |
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Forum Posts: 160 | Comment #31 by xenoriddley Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 05:57:44 PM | |
| Seriously, I'm getting tired of all the developers thinking that every damned game need MP!! Not everything needs it. There is literally no point at all for it to be in this, or God of War. Hell why don't they just add MP to Heavy Rain, the Yakuza games, or hell, even Castlevania or Star Ocean games? WHEN WILL IT STOP?!?! |
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Forum Posts: 5 | Comment #32 by rattyinc Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 06:36:29 PM | |
| There will be MP for final fantasy soon.....sooon |
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Forum Posts: 1279 | Comment #33 by xhair Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 06:39:22 PM | |
| if they can pull it off like uncharteds mp then good luck to them, would prefer coop like uncharted or like the far cry 3 separate story , but as long as it dont impact the sp, personally i dont want it but there might be some out there that might |
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Forum Posts: 128 | Comment #34 by FilmNoir7 Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 06:40:01 PM | |
| No need for a multiplayer just give players a " Great " survival story with lots of puzzle & action |
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Forum Posts: 3879 | Comment #35 by Aidan Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 06:43:12 PM | |
| Can someone PLEASE give a RATIONAL and FACTUAL explanation as to why they oppose an OPTIONAL feature of a videogame that can only IMPROVE the value of the package? |
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Forum Posts: 3879 | Comment #36 by Aidan Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 07:16:06 PM | |
| And don't give me that "uses money/resources that could've been used on single player" crap either. That's a bunch of bullshit. Single player is not affected by multiplayer in the slightest. |
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Forum Posts: 19 | Comment #37 by Yowza Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 07:18:34 PM | |
| @35 for me I don't like multiplayer added to games like this strictly for the online trophies. If there are none then I don't care. |
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Forum Posts: 3879 | Comment #38 by Aidan Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 07:25:44 PM | |
Granted, I dislike multiplayer trophies myself, but I find that no rational reason as to why I should oppose studios to add multiplayer.
Multiplayer has turned 15-25 hour games into 300-500+ hour games. CoD, Battlefield, Uncharted, Grand Theft Auto, etc. It can only get better. If the multiplayer blows - don't play it.
Adding multiplayer adds tons of replay value to a game. When I was about 12 when Tomb Raider 3 came out, I would've loved playing online. Just because certain studios have coughed up shitty online doesn't mean multiplayer itself sucks. In fact, multiplayer itself is amazing. The execution is just something crap. |
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Forum Posts: 107 | Comment #39 by Cobalt Demon Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 07:36:38 PM | |
@36 what you have posted is partially incorrect, Single Player does get affected by Multiplayer, but only slightly. Since a Blu-ray or DVD can only hold so much data, the data that gets used for the Multiplayer could be used for the Single Player portion of the game, which isn't that much of a problem, considering the amount of data both of the aforementioned forms of media can hold (especially Blu-ray). I'm not against Multiplayer myself, but if the execution of it is poor (Ninja Gaiden 3 as an example), I'll avoid that aspect of the game (even if it prevents me from getting the Platinum, since I don't care about trophies).
I won't pass judgment on this yet, for two reasons, first of all, it's not even out yet, and second, there are no details on the Multiplayer, save for the fact that there is a Multiplayer aspect to the game. |
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Forum Posts: 3879 | Comment #40 by Aidan Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 07:41:24 PM | |
No, they will simply add a second disc if required. There's games out there who have multiplayer on a second disc when using DVD-ROM. Nothing gets scrapped or erased from a single player game due to size restriction, especially not on PS3 considering nobody has ever truly filled up a Blu-Ray yet, nor would it be necessary with compression technology of today.
Your approach, however, is absolutely correct. If you don't like it, don't play it. I love Far Cry 3, but the multiplayer carries absolutely no interest for me, so I'll never play it. That doesn't make me any less fond of the game, however. What I wanted from it delivered. |
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Forum Posts: 116 | Comment #41 by Exedome Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 08:11:42 PM | |
| @39 You don't care about trophies? Oh, the irony... |
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Forum Posts: 1612 | Comment #42 by WINAS3 Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 08:26:39 PM | |
| Wow... |
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Forum Posts: 270 | Comment #43 by drkrZEN Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 08:55:03 PM | |
They add multiplayer to everything these days... very rarely does it turn out good.
Probably a "long time in the making" and nothing more than your standard fanfare. |
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Forum Posts: 19 | Comment #44 by creap1084 Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 09:01:54 PM | |
| I can handle Co-op |
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Forum Posts: 933 | Comment #45 by nintendo64X Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 09:07:49 PM | |
LOL the first people who commented, bunch of cry babies...
Don't like the mode don't play it, now I know what y'all are thinking "BUT I WANT 100% TROPHIES!"
First of all the story points to co-op, which means you and a good buddy can do these together, second if its actually against other players I know most of you will turn to boosting, don't deny that, I used to do that (until ghost recon made me realise how pointless it was, I since quit boosting) but I know a select few of you glory hounds will rush in and dominate the game upon release!
But if you really don't like the idea of online at all, lets face it everyone wants to play with others online, and just about every game these days is gonna have online, not all but quite a few, so get used to it, get better or play until all SP trophies are acquired and skip the mp...
This may be a trophy hunting site, but we are entitled to our own opinions, mine is to get better or don't bother rather than cry because we gotta interact with others from our dusty basement caves. |
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Forum Posts: 72 | Comment #47 by Darthtoxicity Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 09:42:49 PM | |
HEY GUYS WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF MANHUNT HAD MULTIPLAYER?! HOW ABOUT SILENT HILL?! OR AMNESIA! OR MEGAMAN X! OR A BUNCH OF OTHER GAMES THAT DON'T NEED MULTIPLAYER! Seriously, I could go on.
Holy crap, this is stupid. I wasn't getting this game in the first place, but it's a shame that they're going to shoehorn a mode for the sake of it. |
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Forum Posts: 205 | Comment #48 by Zallera Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 09:43:04 PM | |
| yet another series to tack on multiplayer. Didn't plan on getting the game but I hope for those that are, that the multiplayer doesn't reek of suck. |
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Forum Posts: 133 | Comment #49 by maink Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 09:57:44 PM | |
| been playing tomb raider trilogy lately , this game is going to be good |
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Forum Posts: 213 | Comment #50 by SUM1SLY Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 11:42:28 PM | |
Wtf I've been looking forward to this,I'm not going to buy it now I was going to buy GOW but once I found out it had multiplayer I made my mind up I'm not getting that.
What is wrong with single player games ? Why can't no1 play a game on their own anymore they have to have multiplayer on everything.
I bet they are adding multiplayer so they can add easy dlc to make like just maps instead of doing real work and making extra story. |
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Forum Posts: 821 | Comment #51 by Banacheckfps Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 11:43:42 PM | |
No, they will simply add a second disc if required. There's games out there who have multiplayer on a second disc when using DVD-ROM. Nothing gets scrapped or erased from a single player game due to size restriction, especially not on PS3 considering nobody has ever truly filled up a Blu-Ray yet, nor would it be necessary with compression technology of today.
#40 Content has been scrapped in the past Lost Planet 2 dev's spoke about how they had to scrap content because of the 360 disc size, other dev's have also had to scrap content for the same reason.
I love how people assume that the MultiplayerCo op will be tacted-on, seeing how there will be another dev team working on that only i cannot see how it's tacted-on weather it's good is another thing. I agree with some Multiplayer trophies that don't depend on other people, and get you to try Multiplayer not force you to play for hours on end (level50 trophies). |
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Forum Posts: 596 | Comment #52 by Undertaker Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 11:47:45 PM | |
nice i dont mind ;)
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Forum Posts: 596 | Comment #53 by Undertaker Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 11:50:06 PM | |
@ #12
they r crying becuase of online trophys.
its good devs don't listen to trophy hunters.
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Forum Posts: 9 | Comment #54 by hooch is crazy Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 11:53:39 PM | |
| if its like FarCry 3's co-op then I'm all for it. its a good break from the main game where stealth and the serious tone is replaced by charging in and laughing at any misfortunes. the missions weren't a chore and the trophies could be done offline split/screen. anything more than that and tomb raider is gonna have trouble seeing itself in my collection |
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Forum Posts: 585 | Comment #55 by Wolfwood Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 11:57:52 PM | |
| makes me wonder why they waited till so close to release to reveal the multiplayer...i smell failure and they know it |
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Forum Posts: 3340 | Comment #56 by DarkStar83x Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 12:32:55 AM | |
| Booo!!!!!! You don't need multiplayer in every fucking game! |
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Forum Posts: 295 | Comment #57 by ChowderlyDude Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 02:12:19 AM | |
| Holy friggin crap I cannot believe how many people complain about multiplayer in games. Believe it or not some people like multiplayer if the trophies are not ridiculous... if you are a trophy whore like me buy it or not based on how hard the multiplayer is but do NOT complain about how they have multiplayer in games. So tired of the instant reactions of omg multiplayer why why why... geez ya'll need to grow up and realize that multiplayer is another aspect of games and true gamers evaluate both modes based on how well they play... not "single player onry". Oh btw people single player and multiplayer are worked on by seperate teams so this multiplayer subtract from the single player comment is the most ignorant gaming comment I have EVER heard. |
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Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #58 by FinPete82 Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 02:30:33 AM | |
| No one has played this game and everyone is crying about multiplayer? What, not happy about possible co-op gameplay? And its made by another studio, so its not wasted resources from main studio what focuses in campain. |
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Forum Posts: 621 | Comment #59 by ForceGrip86 Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 02:41:56 AM | |
I see a lot of people complaining, AGAIN. I don't get why. The MP is not being forced on you, you don't have to play it. The SP will still be there in all its glory, the MP is just an additional mode to the game for those who might enjoy it. Unless they have MP trophies, which of course would then force those trophy hunters into playing the MP parts.
I won't judge it until I here more about it, but if its anything similar to Guardian of Light then it should be good because that game was awesome. But as long as there are no MP trophies I don't see what people have to complain about.
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Forum Posts: 159 | Comment #60 by Mjuventino Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 03:08:31 AM | |
NO WAY TO RUN FROM MP ANYMORE ! so all we have to do is deal with it
as long as the game is good there's no need or point to complain , MP is an addition and can be a great 1, it can be as 90 % of the time messed up also. either way if its a great game we'll play it then hunters will always hunt that shiny thing , players will play it and move on , haters will always hate
we can hope for a sweet Co-Op mode or at least a fun MP thats all though or an Uncharted MP trophies set so we dont waste much time on it and thats if the MP turns out to be bad , which we dont know yet |
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Forum Posts: 55 | Comment #61 by mysticmosh Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 03:33:10 AM | |
| for fucks sake when will developers stop and think?. MP in all but a few games is absolute bollocks and unneeded. Not every one likes MP but we keep getting it "added on" as if it's some sort of fantastic extra that will improve our playing of the game. Most of my psn friends were met via BF3 or BFBC2, class online games, and if they aren't playing said games chances are they AREN'T playing online. Penny dropping yet devs?. Co-op is ultra shite as well and only works in games like Uncharted where you got 3 player co-op. Look at the abismal Buddy System that we were forced into on MOH WF. Once over I would simply go online to plat a game (AC Revelations anyone?), but now there's going to be a load of games that won't be done to 100% simply because of lame ass MP. Devs need to remember this, unless it's CoD or BF or the like, people buy games to play the SP. |
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Forum Posts: 148 | Comment #62 by Neophenom Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 04:48:46 AM | |
| To everyone losing their mind over how "not every game needs multiplayer", here's a suggestion, don't play the multiplayer then, the game doesn't change at all because of having it. Uncharted 2 & 3, Max Payne 3, and Dead Space 2, they all had multiplayer, Did I played it? No, didn't care for it, but still enjoyed the games, so why can't we just move on. I find the whole complaining over the possibility of online trophy collection disturbing. Video games are just toys for fun, so what if a trophy, an imaginary award, is missed here and there, getting it doesn't validate your experience one way or the other. Collect the trophies if it's part of the fun, if not, then move on to another game. Developers do what they have to to extend the life of their product, games are made with money, not with love for the craft. |
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Forum Posts: 3879 | Comment #63 by Aidan Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 05:06:11 AM | |
| #50, you're an idiot. Really, you are. |
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Forum Posts: 31 | Comment #64 by SUM1FOXY Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 05:43:34 AM | |
| I'm not very happy at this this news was really looking forward to this game but now I am thinking twice about getting it. As it has always been a good old single player game I don't know why every game they make now has to have mp on it. I love playing games like that on my own they should leave mp out of it. |
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Forum Posts: 50 | Comment #65 by Cjail Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 05:48:52 AM | |
Judging a game, a multiplayer, without having played it is so sad.
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Forum Posts: 82 | Comment #66 by Wicked Seraph Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 06:21:14 AM | |
| Really getting tired of games that are better off single player having MP added to it because of how popular some of this over rated shit is. COD cough cough. Isnt Last of Us getting MP now? which if i remember correctly the developers originally said it was to be a single player expierence. Fucking Sellouts |
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Forum Posts: 12 | Comment #67 by MJAndre24 Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 07:38:55 AM | |
| Fanboy trophy hunters.. Ah, you guys are hilarious. Never change. |
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Forum Posts: 12 | Comment #68 by MJAndre24 Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 07:43:48 AM | |
@41 You're making the assumption that everyone on this site MUST be a only-caring-about-trophies, only "boosting" (which is fucking stupid term..) and being selfish.
Ever figured some people, y'know.. *Just want to play a damn game, whether there's trophies or not*? Y'know, with friends? For fun? Ugh.. You guys.. So hilarious. |
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Forum Posts: 213 | Comment #69 by SUM1SLY Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 07:48:06 AM | |
@63 yeah I'm an idiot because I don't like multiplayer added onto good single player games,your a kn0bhead what's your excuse.
Calling someone an idiot because they have an opinion.
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Forum Posts: 12 | Comment #70 by MJAndre24 Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 08:01:50 AM | |
@69; Y.. You know multiplayer is optional, right? You can completely ignore it. It's not forcing you to play it, like, at all.
Hell, it could very well be poor choice of words and it's just co-op mission-based stuff. And I *know* I'd like to be able to play co-op with a friend or two. Games are meant to be fun and available to everyone. Don't like multiplayer? Simple, don't play it! There are plenty of games I've played where I've simply not touched the multiplayer at all. I'm not being forced to, so.. Why are you making it seem like you are? |
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Forum Posts: 213 | Comment #71 by SUM1SLY Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 08:25:17 AM | |
@70 because I don't like multiplayer trophies and having to rely on other people to earn them.
Yes I enjoy collecting trophies and getting my games 100% that's why I joined this site.
I don't enjoy grinding through multiplayer that I don't like to complete my game,that's why I didn't buy AC3 because I don't like the multiplayer at all.
No need for people to get upset because I said I won't buy a game what wrong with you all ? I'll buy or not buy any game I want for what reason I see fit.
Get off my back I'm not on your's for what games you buy or don't buy.
You never know I might end up getting it if it has no multiplayer trophies and I have no reason to play something I don't want too. |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #72 by DJAndy2K Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 08:26:08 AM | |
No.... just.... No.
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Forum Posts: 1118 | Comment #73 by BeardedBushMan Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 08:27:33 AM | |
@70 People love to complain and cry, about anything and everything, then hide behind the statement "it's my opinion and I'm allowed to state my opinion!" (which they are but write it in your diary), that's why they act like they are being forced to play mp. :) The best part is you point out how nuts they sound, and they get all defensive, because crybabies are NEVER wrong!
I love video games and I've been disappointed countless times, but it's just not worth the energy of getting so upset about. I promise you, there's more to life. Happy Holidays my fellow trophy hunting nerds! |
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Forum Posts: 12 | Comment #74 by MJAndre24 Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 08:40:43 AM | |
@73; You, sir, are what this world needs more of. Not these selfish little children who only believe a complete game is how many trophies or achievement points they have.. Ugh.. Sure, I like seeing the Ding! of a trophy/achievement as much as anyone, but IT'S A GAME. It's supposed to just be a fun thing!
Ah.. Back when games didn't have achievements or trophies, you just played 'em for fun! Good times.. |
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Forum Posts: 343 | Comment #75 by DaddyGamer Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 09:05:54 AM | |
Lol @ the people talking down to / getting mad at trophy hunters on a trophy hunting site lol
If its online coop I'm down, anything else would be sketchy at best for me... |
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Forum Posts: 11 | Comment #76 by timewarp Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 10:52:15 AM | |
Ok everyone
1) Since when did people NOT complain about Multiplayer? As far as I'm aware this has always been the response to devs adding a Multiplayer aspect.
2) Yep it's weird and I'm a little surprised myself. Hopefully it's being made by a separate team. As for why, I'd imagine the same old reason it's always been. IT SELLS, sorry but money is what leads the industry as it has a handy job of being used to buy things.
3) If your a trophy hunter shouldn't you see this as a challenge? Yes it's annoying having to go online, trophy hunting is optional. What do you want? The games companies to change their games because you don't want your optional choice to be slighter harder? I mean I like collecting trophies but to tell you the truth I'm not that good at completing games on the harder difficulties but you don't see me demanding they get rid of those trophies for completing the game on expert mode.
4)#40 No offense intended here but I don't think they would add a second disc since that'd mean driving the expenses for the game up. I think if anything it might have two discs if needed on the 360 but the PS3 would be kept to one.
#35/36 Actually that depends on how the multiplayer is being handled. If there's two teams then your right it won't effect the single player in the slightest since the SP Team can achieve most of what they set out to when making the game but in the case of one team. Yes it does impact the game a lot. Since to begin with time is a constant in this universe. Also the cost can be a factor since Games Companies always have to think about the profit they'll make against the costs their spending to see if it's worth the risk.
It won't mean much making millions of a game if you've spent millions in the development as well. |
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Forum Posts: 76 | Comment #77 by TheRealThing Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 11:02:25 AM | |
| I'm going to have to agree with those who are bothered by this. I'm tired of seeing great SP games get MP tacked on to draw in the MP players, and worse having trophies that force you to play it to 100% the list. I'm going to have to reconsider purchasing it now. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #78 by MartinSawyer Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 05:50:31 PM | |
| What´s next Fallout Multiplayer with killing streaks? |
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Forum Posts: 127 | Comment #79 by legrooos Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 06:27:05 PM | |
| No swimming plus mp = instant no buy. And instant no piracy either, it's not worth it |
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Forum Posts: 884 | Comment #80 by poetic_justice_ Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 06:47:20 PM | |
@19 Don't you think the "If you don't like multiplayer, don't play it" attitude is naieve for a trophy website? You have 19 posts, and it appears you're new. The point of ps3trophies.org is to earn trophies. If Tomb Raider contains multiplayer trophies, multiplayer has to be played to platinum the game. That means every (possibly) crappy, grinding, boring multiplayer trophy has be won. Almost everyone here would LOVE to somehow circumvent mind-numbingly monotonous multiplayer trophies, but this site exists in large part because we can't. Everyone on the thread complaining about multiplayer trophies has grounds to speculate, especially given the illogical time demands developers attach to multiplayer trophies. Rockstar, DICE, 2K, EA, Activision, Bethesda - every major developer I can think of offhand has taken a beautiful game and wrecked the gaming experience by adding pointless multiplayer trophies to it. The one exception might be Naughty Dog.
If the multiplayer is co-op - Far Cry 3 has co-op multiplayer, and it is a blast! If Tomb Raider takes the same route and has decent gameplay, that is a very good thing. However, online vs. multiplayer with attached trophies (i.e., Win 100 games, Earn All In-Game Weapon Medals, Place 1st in Deathmatch 3X, Achieve 10,000 Kills, etc.) are the bane of many gamers' existence. Hopefully, Montreal Eidos will stay away from that negative path for Tomb Raider. Honestly though, all pessimistic speculation is groundless until we know what the developers actually plan to do. |
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Forum Posts: 52 | Comment #81 by The Waspman Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 07:15:45 PM | |
Y'know, I want to be angry about this, I want to be all 'FFS developers, STOP crowbarring pointless multiplayer into everything!' but I just don't have the energy anymore.
Yes, its slightly disheartening to learn that Tomb Raider, a franchise that has ALWAYS been singleplayer is getting a multiplayer mode, just because thats the done thing these days, but as others have stated, it may not be a bad thing.
Lets look at the evidence. The article states that the multiplayer has been produced by a seperate development team from the single player campaign. So no time has been taken from the development of that, which is a good thing. And what form does the multiplayer take? Because I'll be honest, as much as I have railed against multiplayer in the past, some single player games have done it well. I was surprised by how much I enjoyed the 'tagged on' multiplayer in Assassins Creed. For a few hours, before it got boring. But it was an interesting aside to the actual campaign. Similarly with Uncharted. I loved the co-op missions in that, they were fun. Not so much the team deathmatch though, I'm more about co-op gameplay myself. Like in Mass Effect 3.
What I DON'T want to see in Tomb Raider is the main campaign playable in co-op. If they do a seperate series of co-op missions like in Uncharted, I'll be happy with that, but a game thats been heavily marketed as being about survival is havily diluted if you've got someone constantly backing you up.
TL;DR, If the multiplayer follows the Uncharted route, I wont mind. If it follows the Dead Space route, then it'll kill the franchise. |
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Forum Posts: 29 | Comment #82 by EpicR3volver88 Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 07:37:53 PM | |
| @81 couldn't have said it better myself |
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Forum Posts: 29 | Comment #83 by Moshuadeath Sunday, December 30, 2012 @ 01:58:02 AM | |
| I was freaking confused when they added multiplayer to Uncharted 2, but it was definitely welcomed... Over time. This though, I actually planned on buying the game until I noticed this reveal. I'll rent in maybe for the story and be done with it :/ |
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Forum Posts: 116 | Comment #85 by Exedome Sunday, December 30, 2012 @ 08:39:51 AM | |
| @38 But CoD and Battlefield started out as multiplayer games. |
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Forum Posts: 93 | Comment #86 by Zaid26194 Sunday, December 30, 2012 @ 09:39:00 AM | |
What's next..... Multiplayer for PAC-man!!
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Forum Posts: 100 | Comment #87 by mistersting Sunday, December 30, 2012 @ 10:26:14 AM | |
@81 - Yup. Publishers have decreed that multiplayer sells, and they sadly aren't entirely wrong there. The downside to shoe-horning it into every game is that only a handful of games keep their MP crowd for more than a few weeks, leaving a dead feature shortly after release. I'd say it sells games initially, but you then see loads of copies in the used section of games stores.
Providing a solid game with possibly several different ways to do things makes more sense to me than a box-ticking exercise to please the bean counters. |
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Forum Posts: 11 | Comment #88 by timewarp Sunday, December 30, 2012 @ 01:12:39 PM | |
| Well bottom line we should wait for Tomb Raider to come out at least before passing judgement OR at the very least till we see the online component |
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Forum Posts: 3879 | Comment #89 by Aidan Sunday, December 30, 2012 @ 03:46:17 PM | |
@80 I'm guessing you're looking at the wrong person. I have close to 4,000 posts (not that it should matter) and I've been here since the very origin of this website in 2008... I'm very much aware of trophies and people's hatred towards multiplayer trophies, considering I have a good total of 7,000 trophies myself or so.
However, I can look past my own interests and see how the inclusion of multiplayer benefits both developers and publishers financially, which results in the continuation of not just the industry itself, but also provides more quality games in the future. If multiplayer adds another 1,000,000 in sales then I think it's a positive addition. |
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Forum Posts: 20458 | Comment #90 by Terminator Sunday, December 30, 2012 @ 04:47:02 PM | |
@80+87: You two have hit the nail on the head.
Once you start adding MP 9/10 that means long, grindy, boring trophies and hours spent trying to find someone to play with that knows what they're doing. It also doesn't help when said MP is on servers that are as reliable as the weather.
To me MP is only good if there is a plausible reason for it existing but tacking it on to a franchise that's always been single player is rarely a good move. If multiplayer has to be added then there are two options for how it should be done:
1: Dead Space 2: They added MP, it was crap and felt tacked on but what mattered was there were no trophies included
2: Resident Evil 5: The multiplayer for this also wasn't brilliant but by patching adding it in later as DLC meant you could completely ignore it (unless you're a completionist) and not worry about your Platinum taking longer than necessary.
On the subject of different teams working on MP modes well we all know how Bioshock 2 turned out. Also don't forget what an utter bugfest ME3's MP was until they mostly fixed it with the last patch.
I am not completely adversed to multiplayer but it takes a special form of it to really grab me and make me want to play it post trophy gathering. Resistance 2s co-op mode is one such online mode that kept me playing even after getting all the co-op trophies. Both Borderlands games have also kept me playing months past getting to 100%.
I appreciate that developers have to find new ways of making money and increasing longevity but adding multiplayer to everything is not it, neither is hacking out most of the game to sell later. Some days I yearn for the days when games regularly came on multiple discs, as that always meant you'd be playing for months on end before finishing the game. Unfortunately these days the yearly iteration model has seen average story mode completion times plummet to single digits, £30+ for a 5hr story is not good value in my eyes.
Apologies for the essay but I wanted to get this off my chest. |
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Forum Posts: 3879 | Comment #91 by Aidan Sunday, December 30, 2012 @ 08:47:09 PM | |
If we want to be completely fair, most story modes in old games (Genesis/SNES/PS1) could be completed in a few hours. Hell, you could complete Resident Evil and Metal Gear Solid in under 2 hours.
Most games that are "longer" these days get incredibly boring. I find God of War and such to be the perfect length. I like 8-10 hour stories. |
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Forum Posts: 57 | Comment #92 by DuoMaxwell007 Monday, December 31, 2012 @ 12:50:42 AM | |
| i hope its co op as opposed to deathmatch/competitive but at the same time having co op in the single player campaign would ruin the whole "survival" thing Id think.. i mean what about the part where lara gets kidnapped and wake sup tied up in some cave? thats not so tense if i know i got another guy in there helpin me lol |
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Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #93 by DJAndy2K Monday, December 31, 2012 @ 08:23:37 AM | |
| Lara has always worked ALONE!!!! Nuff said. lol |
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Forum Posts: 56 | Comment #94 by LIL BRIDGES Monday, December 31, 2012 @ 03:43:47 PM | |
| What is wrong with you guys? If you don't like multiplayer you don't have to play it. I have a lot of fun playing with a friend so I'm happy. |
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Forum Posts: 3879 | Comment #95 by Aidan Monday, December 31, 2012 @ 04:34:02 PM | |
| @92, considering a different team is working on multiplayer components, I can't imagine it's fused in with Single Player. |
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Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #96 by YunGFLASHyy Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 08:14:56 PM | |
| They should have announced MP much earlier, then maybe i would've pre ordered, but now after they already announced a delayed date too close to Ascension, I will wait until this one hits the pre owned shelves. Bad marketing. |
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Forum Posts: 2775 | Comment #97 by yazter Thursday, January 10, 2013 @ 06:28:30 AM | |
| Ewwww I'm gagging |
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