Forum Posts: 3737 | Comment #1 by starcrunch061 Wednesday, August 29, 2012 @ 01:14:56 PM | |
| I'm sure he means to say, "I couldn't care less about violent video games." |
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Forum Posts: 842 | Comment #2 by JoBot 8000 Wednesday, August 29, 2012 @ 01:29:41 PM | |
| @1 Hmmm, I'm pretty sure he wouldn't make a mistake like that, maybe he actually does in fact mean he could care less about violent video games. I do hate it when people say they could care less about something when they do actually mean the opposite -___- |
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Forum Posts: 1201 | Comment #3 by SoPoF Wednesday, August 29, 2012 @ 01:46:23 PM | |
That aside, he's right, though. I don't mind violent scenes per se that much, but the way it's being celebrated nowadays disgusts me. "Look, here, our trailer showing the many cool 'finishing' animations." Ect. Depicting violence does not equal glorifying it, the latter of which seems to be more and more the case as the industry progresses.
If some 12 year old can only feel strong when his video game avatar is slicing people in half with stylish moves and poses without even looking at them, I think it's time to reconsider.
It's not just games, though. |
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Forum Posts: 210 | Comment #4 by randomguy666 Wednesday, August 29, 2012 @ 01:51:59 PM | |
TBH, I think in the next few years we're going to see the gaming industry move away from FPS games, and head somewhere new. A lot of games are going down the "sandbox" route with Block based "Create your own" style games becomming more and more popular on the console market (Minecraft and Terraria for the PC have both sold huge numbers, as have similar games)
Personally, I'd like to see a bit more progress towards real tough, challenging single-player titles (Like Demon's and Dark Souls) and a lot more MOBA games for consoles (Like Awesomenauts and LoL)
Know-one knows when the market will change direction, but as far as FPS is concerned, I'd say we're damn close to saturation point. |
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Forum Posts: 3737 | Comment #5 by starcrunch061 Wednesday, August 29, 2012 @ 02:05:12 PM | |
@2: Yeah, I thought that maybe he could use that escape clause.
@3: I also agree. I think that a developer can do what he wants, but if ultraviolence is believed somehow to be the MAIN reason people purchase a game, it's problematic, and pathetic. |
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Forum Posts: 21895 | Comment #6 by mjc0961 Wednesday, August 29, 2012 @ 02:11:28 PM | |
I said this on x360a, but Warren Spector is such a dumbfuck that I'm copying and pasting it over here too:
"I still believe that the most mature game at E3 was Epic Mickey 2."
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! This guy is an absolute tosser. Epic Mickey 1 might have been mature if they stuck with the original concept instead of changing it. As for Epic Mickey 2, you know what game at E3 looks way more mature than that? ...Fuck, I forget what it's called, but it's Quantic Dream's newest game.
"What we celebrated was the slow-motion knife to the throat and the teenage girl sucking a lollipop and wielding a chainsaw."
I'd be offended by his completely inaccurate slamming of Lollipop Chainsaw (which is far better than any game Spector has made and will ever make), but this is the same retard who claimed that everyone was playing Epic Mickey wrong and that there has never been a game with a good camera when they complained about EM's terrible camera. The simple fact of the matter is that Warren Spector is a fucking idiot who's so out of touch with the gaming industry. He should be taken even LESS seriously than Peter Molyneux. After all, at least Peter Molyneux has the decency to admit that he's usually full of shit (http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/news-7832-Molyneux-Made-Up-Game-Features--To-Stop-Journalists-Going-To-Sleep-.html). But Warren Spector? Nope. Guy's a flat-out piece of shit. |
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Forum Posts: 42 | Comment #7 by Lsnake Wednesday, August 29, 2012 @ 04:28:21 PM | |
Oh for the love of..
What line? What exactly on E3 crossed a magic violence line? There was nothing more dramatic this year compared to earlier years!
Games today aren't any more violent than games 20 years ago, only more realistic and detailed. Anyone played Phantasmagoria? Brutal, graphic murders of women in the goriest ways possible? Or wait, HARVESTER! Where a couple of kids eat their own mother! And that doesn't even begin to describe all kinds of sick stuff in that game.
Heck, all the impaled, writhing people in Doom combined with all the blood and explosions and guts everywhere surpasses anything I saw at E3..
Spector should just go apply for the retirement home, he clearly doesn't remember that videogames have crossed limits since day one. |
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Forum Posts: 11 | Comment #8 by timewarp Wednesday, August 29, 2012 @ 04:51:48 PM | |
| These comments are really just hilarious, "There's a problem in the gaming industry, of course the games I make are ok!" what a strange coincidence! We should all buy your game! |
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Forum Posts: 717 | Comment #9 by Scorpkahn Wednesday, August 29, 2012 @ 05:18:47 PM | |
| "Warren Spector", what a name! |
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Forum Posts: 11 | Comment #10 by timewarp Wednesday, August 29, 2012 @ 05:34:25 PM | |
| Warren Spector, the last hope for humanity! |
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Forum Posts: 17 | Comment #11 by zombieBaxter Wednesday, August 29, 2012 @ 05:49:35 PM | |
@8 These comments ^ are equally hilarious. A bunch of people attempting to tear apart an established game developer because he commented on video game violence. I'm sure Spector is crying himself to sleep knowing that two no names (comments 6 and 7) called him out as a developer. These comments are much more ridiculous and outright stupid than spector's own comment. I guess that's the plus of being a nobody though. You can vomit idiocy and it phases no one, but if your well establish and famous in your line of work one misstep and suddenly every average joe thinks they are in a position to talk down to you.
I think he is fairly right. When your game is over the top violent just for the sake of being violent you are contributing to the negative view of video gaming in the public eye. I mean let's be honest, did Lillie pop chainsaw add anything to the gaming industry? Any inovativions? Mind blowing graphics? What's that? No? Thats right it was just a mediocre game that played off of a hot chick and gore... That game s'ed d's. |
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Forum Posts: 21 | Comment #12 by COKE OR PEPSI Wednesday, August 29, 2012 @ 06:00:57 PM | |
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I don't think I've actually ever heard anyone say "I could care less" and intend it to mean that they care somewhat. It is intended to mean I don't care at all which means "I couldn't care less" should be used. If anyone tries to argue that it is correct because they do care somewhat then they are likely using an ad hoc argument.
It seems to be an American thing to say "I could care less" and I say that as an American myself. The only other country that might use it is Canada only because of its proximity to the US. I don't think I've ever heard it from any of the other English speaking countries and for good reason. |
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Forum Posts: 621 | Comment #13 by MrTroll Wednesday, August 29, 2012 @ 10:26:35 PM | |
| Then come back and make a real Deus Ex sequel and show them how mature and intelligent violent video games can be, Warren. It kills me to see him wasting his talents on Mickey Mouse video games. |
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Forum Posts: 625 | Comment #14 by P_Pigly_Hogswine Thursday, August 30, 2012 @ 02:01:31 AM | |
| I've heard people say "I could care less" and it has always seemed weird to me. Then again, I find the saying "Have your cake and eat it too" to be the height of odd. Why would I want a cake if I wasn't going to eat it? Why? Whhhyyyy? |
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Forum Posts: 24 | Comment #15 by Equirah Thursday, August 30, 2012 @ 02:38:54 AM | |
| Chuu chuu, everybody board the hate train! |
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Forum Posts: 1201 | Comment #16 by SoPoF Thursday, August 30, 2012 @ 02:58:51 AM | |
I don't believe calling someone "a flat-out piece of shit" is a good basis to comment on maturity.
Though, of course, saying "me game iz teh best" was stupid, even if it's his honest opninion, it harmed his believability.
Naming video games from the past who were also violent isn't really the point. As written above, depiction and glorification of violence are not the same. Gory horror game? The violence is used to scare or disgust you or something similar. (Not discussing how effectively here.) It is not used to show how cool and badass the main character is. Just an example. Sure, you could just shoot that enemy, but wait, we have a slo-mo ten seconds animation of how you kick him in the balls first, then pin him to the wall with spears and deliver a headshot that lets his head explode and the blood fly everywhere including blood on the camera screen.
Yes, violent games always existed, but the thing is, Mr. Spector was at the E3 and this was his impression then and there. Maybe there were even a few specific things that lead him to it. Even if games contain more than just violence, look at what is usually being pointed out in the marketing, at how trailers are constructed etc.
Oh ... and LOL³@ Lollipop Chainsaw being far better than any game Spector has made. |
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