Forum Posts: 284 | Comment #1 by brandaman69 Saturday, August 25, 2012 @ 11:55:15 AM | |
| Even though they see they have a rivalry but their fan-bases are completely different with SF being a harder deeper game while tekken is more of a game for when friends come over. Also I find it funny how their online service is called WTF |
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Forum Posts: 94 | Comment #2 by ResidentXombie Saturday, August 25, 2012 @ 01:45:18 PM | |
| You serious? SF is a 2D game, not much tactics involved. Very simple, my 5 years old brother owns at that game. Tekken Tag 2 is 3D with complex tag mechanics. Not to mention realistic graphics. SF characters all look down-syndromey. |
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Forum Posts: 216 | Comment #3 by s1p4a4w7n Saturday, August 25, 2012 @ 02:04:23 PM | |
I agree with brandman69. @2 TTT2 doesn't even have complex tag mechanics IMO. MvC3 has better tag mechanics than Tekken... "SF characters all look down-syndromey" You should look up what Down Syndrome is... |
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Forum Posts: 216 | Comment #4 by s1p4a4w7n Saturday, August 25, 2012 @ 02:07:07 PM | |
I meant brandaman69* XD |
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Forum Posts: 523 | Comment #5 by DMCV Saturday, August 25, 2012 @ 05:13:55 PM | |
| Looking forward to this! I repeat FIGHTING GAME OF THE YEAR :) btw I think people just thumb Brandaman69 down no matter what he says now lol |
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Forum Posts: 284 | Comment #6 by brandaman69 Saturday, August 25, 2012 @ 05:43:10 PM | |
| @2 just because your brother can beat you doesn't mean he owns at that game, By the way don't hate on Downs syndrome people. |
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Forum Posts: 713 | Comment #7 by Zz-Supremacy-zZ Saturday, August 25, 2012 @ 06:13:14 PM | |
| Still Waiting For TxSF |
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Forum Posts: 11 | Comment #8 by TheUnlockable1 Saturday, August 25, 2012 @ 06:14:47 PM | |
| I would pick up both TTT2 and DOA 5 but if I was to choose one it be Tekken since it has my attention from any other fighting game. Plus Harada, you're a true game producer. No one would stand up to the company demanding the DLC characters free of no charge. |
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Forum Posts: 851 | Comment #9 by Rafie Saturday, August 25, 2012 @ 06:24:43 PM | |
@1 There you go again by trying to down play Tekken for Street Fighter. Please tell me how Super Street Fighter 4 takes "skill"?! Don't get it confused by taking a great fighting game that takes no skill to play..to those who have great skill and make it look that way. Now if you said SF3 takes skill, then I would have whole heartedly agree. I love SF and grew up on it. I agree that some SF titles take skill. Just not the recent ones. The only thing that takes skill there is the challenges. Tekken is the same way. I'll admit it is a bit more "casual friendly"..but I enjoy Tekken more. |
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Forum Posts: 1312 | Comment #10 by jdme1987 Saturday, August 25, 2012 @ 06:50:47 PM | |
| I always enjoyed Tekken the flow of it just feels nicer to me |
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Forum Posts: 29 | Comment #11 by Moshuadeath Saturday, August 25, 2012 @ 08:42:48 PM | |
| Tekken > Persona 4 Arena > Dead or Alive > Blazblu > Killer Instinct > Mortal Kombat > Street Fighter... Honestly, I never ever enjoyed SF. Never had fun ever, I like the 1 2 3 4 in Tekken's controls, it feels like a more fluid battle, left, right, left, right and depending on the character which determines the heavy left or right... On top of that, I'll kick your ass with Kazuya, FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU Ryu, that patch was too late... Radda... |
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Forum Posts: 284 | Comment #12 by brandaman69 Saturday, August 25, 2012 @ 10:38:56 PM | |
@9 the difference is this about 0.1 % of tekken players are actually good at the game the rest use the same scum tactics especially online players . Street fighter 4 is more like 8% of players are good while the other 92% play stupid and use dumb tactics. Also SF3 takes no more skill than SF4 the only difference is that SF3 has longer more damaging combos and a move that will prevent you from getting cheesed out while SF4 is more zoning based and has tighter links. |
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Forum Posts: 9 | Comment #13 by HEMSTAR Sunday, August 26, 2012 @ 02:53:39 AM | |
| To be honest, the only fighting games ive ever owned is tekken, ive had every single one and there is no other fighter that compares to it. sf to me seems like an arcade fighting game while tekkens modern and far more fluid gameplay. tht being said i do believe that sf requires more skill than tekken as tekken is so easy to pick up the controls and have a blast which i like as im average at fighters |
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Forum Posts: 284 | Comment #14 by brandaman69 Sunday, August 26, 2012 @ 03:47:53 AM | |
| The only 3D fighting game I like more than tekken is DOA |
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Forum Posts: 9 | Comment #15 by steve_fox_fm Sunday, August 26, 2012 @ 04:37:10 AM | |
| TEKKEN X STREET FIGHTER ,,, bring it on now NAMCO . |
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Forum Posts: 851 | Comment #16 by Rafie Sunday, August 26, 2012 @ 11:19:18 AM | |
@12 You obviously don't know anything about Third Strike. TRUST ME that it takes plenty of skill to play. Not the dumb spam tactics you see in SF4. Tighter links you say?! LOL Dude...do all of the challenges in 3rd Strike and get back to me. Even Vesper Arcade (who has done every fighter challenge from SF4 to the current SFXT) has put 3rd Strike over SSF4. The zoning is the same on both games. I see where you are coming from with your explanations, but your approach is off. I have to admit that I am looking forward to DOA, but I don't know if it'll be better than Tekken. We'll see. They both drop next month. Right now Persona 4 is killing it. |
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Forum Posts: 24 | Comment #17 by Andrey Sunday, August 26, 2012 @ 11:24:12 AM | |
Guys, seriously... you're embarassing yourselves. If you don't know anything about the game, just don't talk about it. It makes you look really ignorant. Street Fighter is an awesome game. So is Tekken. And even if you don't like either of them, you can NEVER say that one or the other "don't take skill", or is "for scrubs" because both of them are very deep and complex. They're just different. Anyone that play any of these games competitively knows that there's no such thing as being scrubby or winning without effort against decent players. To people who don't know how to play SF, of course it looks like it's all about throwing fireballs or doing flashy super moves. Whoever doesn't play Tekken also thinks the game is just about mashing buttons and seeing flashy stuff happen etc. But if you think like this, you still have a looooooooooooot to learn. None of them is a "casual" game to just "pick up and play with friends". Of course, you can do that with either of them, but you can't deny the amount of depth and complexity they have just because YOU only know how to play on a very basic level. Also, both of them are arcade fighters just the same, none of them is trying to be "realistic", they just have different aesthetics. None is trying to "simulate" anything, they're just trying to be absurd and fun in their own different ways. If you like sport fighting simulators, you can try UFC games and such. All of that comes from a player that loves fighting games in general. I play a lot of Blazblue, Tekken, Street Fighter, and a little bit of MvC, Soul Calibur, Virtua Fighter etc. All of these games are Arcade Fighting games, that come from a tradition of competitive depth and balance, all of them require a mix of execution, awareness, reaction, prediction etc. They have different fundamentals and aesthetics, but none of them is a "party game" or easy for that matter. They're all games that rely competitively 100% on skill, knowledge and experience, 0% on luck. If you don't like the aesthetics of the game, that's a different subject completely. I personally don't enjoy Mortal Kombat's aesthetics, but I won't be ignorant to the point of saying that MK9 is a scrub game, that it takes no skill to win, that it's easy or that it's a party game, because I know it isn't. If it was that easy, I would be at EVO owning everyone and taking the grand prize home. So, if you're ignorant about the subject, it's better not to even talk about it. It's ok if a game visually doesn't appeal to you. It makes you not want to play the game. That's ok. But if you don't play it, well, you don't know much about it, so you can't have an opinion other than "I don't play and don't understand the game enough, so I don't know". On topic: can't wait for TTT2. Bring it on! |
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Forum Posts: 851 | Comment #18 by Rafie Sunday, August 26, 2012 @ 11:50:53 AM | |
@17 First of all..I know you're not directing that at me. I've been playing both respective franchises extensively. SF since '91 and Tekken since '95. Just because I didn't go into detail about both games doesn't mean I know know anything about it. I'm not going to write a novel like you to prove that I know a "little something". Please save that for someone else. Been doing this for a while now. Also you basically said what I said. The person that has the skill makes the game, not that the game takes skill to play. The mechanics of each fighting game is similar and different at the same time...and I love them all. I never once downed one franchise over the other. I like them all. If you didn't mean it how I took it (basically I took it as you were insulting my intelligence on any fighting series), then humbly accept my apologies and we can go from there. Back on topic, TTT2 will be the contender for best fighting game of the year, if not THEE best of the year. |
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Forum Posts: 24 | Comment #19 by Andrey Sunday, August 26, 2012 @ 01:01:24 PM | |
@18 I was not directing this at you, although I completely disagree with you on the matter of "Third Strike takes skill, SF4 not". As much as I love Third Strike, and as much as I hate SF4 Ultras, it's a bit of a longshot to say that one of them takes no skill whatsoever... And Third Strike has its few share of problems as well (namely having 2-3 OP characters that completely dominate the game). Also, the parry system is a bit controvertial, and I partially agree with Seth Killian's take on it (read 2D vs. 3D Domination 101 article), that it more or less takes a lot away from the series. I think both games take a lot of skill, but they take different sets of skills. And you can't say "it's the players that have the skill, not the game that takes skill to play" because, as they're competitive games, if you fight against skilled players you're gonna need skill to win. You can play SF3 and have no skill at all, just mash buttons. You're not gonna win, though. The same happens with SF4. If by skill you mean execution, maybe it's true that SF3 has less assist inputs when it comes to reversals and shoryuken motion, but you must also remember that skill is not the same as execution. And SF4 has a lot more characters that NEED 1 frame links for their BnBs than SF3, for example. TLDR: fighting games are different. most of the classic fighting game franchises are really good. you may like some more than others. doesn't mean they're garbage, and you're not likely to find non-subjective, non-opinative evidence to prove otherwise. |
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Forum Posts: 851 | Comment #20 by Rafie Sunday, August 26, 2012 @ 01:47:17 PM | |
@19 That's fair to disagree about Third Strike. I never said it was perfect. I'm suggesting that to play it competitively on a much harder scale...3rd Strike takes it. It really does. I love the parry system. SF4 kind of did that with focus attacks. Seth Kill is most definitely someone's word I would take on a fighting game. He knows the ins and outs to them all. I do still stand by players having the skill to actually be good in the game, not to just play it. Anyone can play a game. Hell you can play pinball all day, but it takes skill to actually hit good shots that the players has to have. I mean that in the same logic for these fighting games. Certain games takes skill to play. Like you said, anyone can mash...but you're not going to win. It takes "skill" to win. That's what I mean. SSF4 and Tekken are casual friendly games that has high competitive value. The devs make it that way. 3rd Strike is not noob friendly at all. I can agree to the execution part, which is what I was really referring to. I definitely agree with the last part. Brandaman69 has a strong bias for SSF4, and I'm fine with that. However, Tekken is also a great game as well that brought something different to the fgc. I respect your opinion, Andrey! |
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Forum Posts: 24 | Comment #21 by Andrey Sunday, August 26, 2012 @ 01:55:36 PM | |
@20 Thumbed up for justice! |
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