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|Comment #1 by Angelusbane |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 04:37:17 AM
|They do seem to make a lot more money this way. Everyone wants better stuff in games but we as a species are inherently lazy. A lot of people just want that little boost and don't mind paying for it. |
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|Comment #2 by Atreyu_1220 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 04:38:14 AM
|Fuck you EA... |
That is all.
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|Comment #3 by TroubleMaker411 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 04:41:16 AM
|The more that guy talks, the more faith I lose in gaming in general. |
I know EA are a business, but they seem to want to bend everyone over a barrel.
While "freemium" may work in theory, in reality it will become EA setting it up as pay to win to drum up more income. And that's when gaming stops being fun.
I, for one, don't like it. And if it becomes the norm, I will probably have to start looking for a new hobby.
Airfix models maybe. I get everything in the box, I aint charged extra for the wheels or the wings!
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|Comment #4 by Scorpkahn |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 04:49:54 AM
|I feel like Darth Vader after he's learnt that Padmé has died. :( |
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|Comment #5 by sanchezz4387 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 04:56:25 AM
|It isn't the future, the see £$€ that's all, they think that this is a new way to milk as much mo ey as possible......here's need for speed 50, you get all the roads ad the sky or free, you want a few mountains in the background? No problem, £1 please. You want a mustang? Of course....£4, ohhh you want to race at night? Absolutely, £2.50 please.......gaming is dying a slow painful death |
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|Comment #6 by Macthillien |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 04:56:39 AM
|Hope this do not happen. Hate free-to-play games (except Tf2). You always have to pay for bonuses and other crap :( |
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|Comment #7 by AndyBeans |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 05:01:57 AM
|EA and Crytek can go fuck themselves. |
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|Comment #8 by randomguy666 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 05:10:18 AM
|It depends on how the free to play model is built when it comes to the use of micro-transactions. |
Anything that activally gives the player an unfair advantage (more powerful gun, more damage resistance etc) is a complete no for me, and something I don't ever want to see.
Microtransactions on things like appearance for yourself and vehicles are a great idea, as almost everyone loves giving their character more of a unique look, especially in large, free to play MMO style games. This doesn't give the player an unfair advantage, nor does it allow them an easy route to the top
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|Comment #9 by dante_kinkade |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 05:13:02 AM
|it doesnt need to go that way, if it does it will ruin everything over all. what a ass. |
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|Comment #10 by Tostigroover |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 05:19:12 AM
|I don't believe it. I think he wants to start a self-fulfilling prophecy: this guy says it, other start believing it, making free-to-play games and then free-to-play becomes the current trend. |
But I highly doubt 95% of the gamers would be OK with free-to-play (= "pay-to-win" or "pa-to-fully-enjoy") so it won't happen.
But if it happens (which, again, I don't believe), I'll stick to my current game collection and start collecting classics I missed and might enjoy. I will not be a part of that future.
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|Comment #11 by JoBot 8000 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 05:25:50 AM
|If EA's Theme Park game for iOS is anything to go by, then I am not looking forward to the future of games. |
Seriously EA, do us all a fucking favour and stop milking this industry. You are KILLING it, you *CAN* make money without being so fucking greedy. I don't want to hate you EA, because you've done some good stuff, but you are making it very hard.
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|Comment #12 by Mangoes |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 05:33:41 AM
|F2P huh... more like P2W. |
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|Comment #13 by SoPoF |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 05:33:43 AM
|Fine, the future has to be bringing more and more people into gaming. I understand that thought. I don't understand why free2play is the way to do that. |
That being said, if that's the future, it will be a future without me. I hope they fall so flat on their faces they can start a new career at a pug contest.
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|Comment #14 by kid_Jump94 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 05:40:07 AM
|err i dont think so EA, i mean you cant talk for this idustry when you have the Golden Poop Award. That i honestly bet that wont happen in my knowledge of predicting the future, that they only assume this because all companies are saying digital downloads will be the main source of gaming. If im wrong ill glady say i'd told people you recieved something youd expected and hoped for, yet in the end i lied *cough mass effect* *cough* *cough*' |
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|Comment #15 by BolgTheRapist |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 05:54:16 AM
|Do not want. |
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|Comment #16 by Banacheckfps |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 05:54:42 AM
|This will never become the norm by all big companies, if they cannot make digital games download oniy happen anytime soon in the next 10+ years. What makes EA think everything will change to free to play? i really cannot see it happening, they need to just get over the whole trade in business because that is what this comes down |
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|Comment #17 by Asher1985 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 05:59:17 AM
|'if you can move your index finger and swipe it this way, you're a gamer.' |
I can also move my middle finger to an upright position and point it at you. Amazing isn't it?
As someone who buys games new at reduced prices to around £15, this worries me. I don't see how this would work.
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|Comment #18 by ForceGrip86 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 06:05:09 AM
|F2P only works on certain models. I'm all for any MMORPG being free 2 play because it has been proven to work on that sort of game. when you start making every game free 2 play and have mini charges it becomes ridiculous. |
how will EA do that on say a sports game? oh hey, here is FIFA '32.. play as say man utd for free, but only the reserve team. you want rooney and them its gonna cost you bitch. FUCK YOU EA!
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|Comment #19 by Golem25 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 06:07:26 AM
|"Prepare for microtransactions"? We've been getting them out of publishers asses for years now. |
This is why I haven't bought an EA new since Burnout 3, an Activision game since the Transformers Decepticons for the DS (say what you will, but it's a brilliant game for DS standards), a Capcom game new since DR2 (so much glitches, so much lost Trophies, so much remorse), and an Ubisoft game new since Far Cry 2 (remorse incarnated).
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|Comment #20 by Knastcore |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 06:11:13 AM
|Paying for Advantage! Thats whats going to happen in EA´s mind. Look at Battlefield Heroes/Battlefield F2P and else to see whats in mind of EA. If you spend 100$ in a "Free" game you will have the chance to copete with the rest of the idiots that sepend that much Money. |
While you own the Freeusers you will rage about thoose who willing to pay 200$ cause thoose are the one that ownes you! Leave or pa more is all you can do. Skills wont help much if your opponent got 15% more Health do 20% more damage and 10% more ammo in his clip.
If you pay just for the optik just for effeckt less visula items/slins and my for Xp boost to keep up with thoose jobless guys while u got to work 6 days a week have a live/fam and else. Im cool with that. But for now ive seen not a single Freemium game going that way at least no online MP game.
Ea will go more and more rippoff as seen in theyre free browser games.
What we as game can do is stop buying advantage items and else but sadly too many keep going spending 500$ for a Atom bomb firering Rifle with ato aim
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|Comment #21 by nintendo64X |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 06:11:49 AM
|...I'm cool with free to play... |
Just means I don't have to give game companies money if the game is crap, I throw money towards good games or those that have entertained me during my trophy hunting lapses (thank you battlefield 3!)
I don't see what the problem is, I got team fortress 2 on pc and I'm fine, if I get those crates that need me to pay to open them I just give them away or chuck them...don't want to support a game you don't like, don't pay, like the game but short on cash, don't pay...
It's ethier you pay a substantial fee up front and go "this game sucks" (im looking at crysis 2) or free to play and ethier pay for more or enjoy what you have provided you aren't level capped to like 5 out of 100 or something...
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|Comment #22 by SUM1SLY |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 06:36:38 AM
|there was something i seen that said games was going to have built in adverts that pause your game while your playing while it shows adverts and you can't stop it or skip it wtf.i bet this is the stuff that is going to pay for the so called free to play games. |
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|Comment #23 by DanDx |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 06:47:35 AM
|To hell with EA, seriously. So much bullshit written here. What's wrong with the current build huh? You don't want to lower game prices? Is that your problem? You're not making enough money? Well how about making a quality game, instead of waiting for people to be fooled into buying the garbage that you shell out year after year? |
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|Comment #24 by SoPoF |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 06:55:34 AM
|What about people who cannot get online at home? |
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|Comment #25 by xX_shoemaker_Xx |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 07:02:24 AM
|hmmmm, so let me get this straight.. in madden 14 i'll get a disk with just the stadiums and cheerleaders, but have to pay $0.49 for each player in the game? ..lol.. or in the next call of duty i'll get maps and be able to run around and play tag, but need to buy each weapon? yep, sounds about right for the way gaming is heading. what happened to the good old days when developers threw everything they could into a game..FOR FREE! |
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|Comment #26 by The Cosmic Suff |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 07:08:28 AM
|I've hated EA as long as I've been playing videogames... and thats more then a half of my life. I didnt think I could possibly hate them more, but here we are again! |
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|Comment #27 by demoplay86 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 07:12:51 AM
|"Hardcore gamers won't like to hear this. They like to circle the wagons around what they believe is something they feel they have helped build - and rightly so" |
That "Rightly so" seemed quite reluctant.
Sure they've made 'everyone' from mums to the elderly and 5 year olds play games that are specifically marketed to do so but the 'hardcore gamers' they speak of are their original fanbase that 'cycled' around the games they made back when video games were rad and made for the gamer and not just for the buck.
This guy needs to embrace the hardcore gamers moreso. They did help build the companies with the billions they (and their parents) spent on their games in the early days.
Sure the idea of getting everyone whether they're male, female, 6 or 60 to play games is essential to optimize the marketing but it's killing the good games and spamming crap games across the board that these new gamers buy up thinking they're good.
It's been awhile since I played a good RPG or even a game that didn't suck on the wii in general. =P
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|Comment #28 by diskdocx |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 07:17:57 AM
|@16 - Absolutely. This is all about trade in games. You can't trade a microtransaction, and if the game companies can eliminate the 'hard copy' so to speak, they eliminate the used game market and the retail market in one step. |
They don't have to share microtransaction profit and once you've bought it, it's yours forever.
If the game industry goes this way, I will go another way. Lots of other ways to spend my time and dollars.
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|Comment #29 by JackC8 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 07:23:37 AM
|Bad enough they're turning every one of their games into a shooter and everything HAS to have online multiplayer, but now they've even got to alienate their entire customer base by calling us a bunch of teenage boys sequestered in our bedrooms. Who gives a flying f*** about us when you can get all those soccer moms to pay a couple bucks for some DLC for a Kinect fitness game. They're "gamers" and we're a relic of a bygone era. |
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|Comment #30 by Taktikzade |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 07:34:28 AM
|I think everyone on here has missed another big and obvious point so far, and that's Trophy Hunterz will and are kind of already paying for these microtransactions and I think would continue to do so. |
Some games you need to pay for packs to get certain trophies or atleast make them less near on impossible to get, like FIFA 12 Ultimate Team or the Fight Night series.
EA will use this type of formula in the future for there "microtransactions" idea in my opinion.
I don't like it.
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|Comment #31 by theShawzer |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 07:48:43 AM
|That's it, I've had enough of EA, something has to be done...... |
*grabs pitchfork and torch*
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|Comment #32 by TB1317 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 07:49:13 AM
|Well i had something to say, but after reading all of the comments, you said it all. But i will say one thing........ This is a bunch of B.S. |
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|Comment #33 by MrT2 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 08:01:37 AM
|There's always talk of microtransactions, but they seem to end up being 5-8 quid or more. Back about when microtransactions were being proposed originally, they were going to be properly micro, 5-50p per item, the idea being to encourage people to buy lots of little things, but instead they're still pretty little, but cost the earth (yes Star Trek Online with your £16 per ship, I'm looking at you in particular). |
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|Comment #34 by Callam001 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 08:08:00 AM
|i'll be done with gaming soon cant be arsed with this crap. |
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|Comment #35 by dementedlullaby |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 08:55:43 AM
|I blame Diablo 3 and the damn RMAH. |
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|Comment #36 by sanchezz4387 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 09:05:28 AM
|we as the gamers know that F2p will not work on consoles, they are casual iphone/pc mini games that you have a little go of then get board. these douche bag companies WANT it to work as the see a golden nugget to hold us over a barrel with, the fact is can you imagine a game like uncharted or need for speed operating on this kind of basis? errrr no |
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|Comment #37 by jdme1987 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 09:56:21 AM
|With me if it all goes digital and/or protected so you can't get games at gamestop then I guess I'll stick to classics and enjoy the greatness before f2p came thru and annihilated my most favorite past time |
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|Comment #38 by SweGabe |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 09:59:29 AM
|EA is full of shit, most of their games already have tons of microtransactions, the only difference is we still have to pay for the games too. |
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|Comment #39 by Pinhead |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 10:28:44 AM
|PS+ is kinda testing these waters to. Many of the "free" (read: borrowed for as long as your subscription lasts) games are 1/2 games with the rest of the games being DLC, so you get 1/2 a game "free", how many buy those extra DLC's? 100% hoarders at least ;) |
And the 10 free games we got in EU early in the month, 2 of them have a huge ammount of DLC (VF5 in the form of clothes & customizations), how many are buying that?
My guess is Sony is testing F2P with the services
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|Comment #40 by B0SS Zombie |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:16:46 AM
|F2P is effective, in terms of being a great source of income. However, it only works with certain types of games, like Team Fortress 2 and DC Universe Online. Most Microtransactions are for items that give you bragging rights, like Hats. Singleplayer games have no need of bragging rights, so all of the story driven, great games out there probably won't work well with a F2P model. |
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|Comment #41 by Pinhead |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:19:50 AM
|Why ain't none of the companies looking into the shareware model of the 80's? |
Many indy devs arose from that scenario, heck ID became giants on that model and didn't crap themselves financially until after they switched models.
My first copy of Doom was the Shareware version, a discette my friend had copied - as the game asked him to!!! - that discette included the 1st area, 7 complete levels, all the weapons and enemies of the full version. If you liked it you could send a check, usually between 5-15$ to get an official disc with the full version. That's where I really started spending huge chunks of cash on games 'cos we were getting around 15 shareware games a month and I ended up buying most of the ones I liked.
The only reason that model seized to work was 'cos they didn't evolve it with the times. Money order checks got blown into oblivion with credit cards and people were still to sceptical about online transactions to be paying for the full versions with them. Try it again today where everyone seems to have plastic, shareware on PSN, where people have their fund cards, the transaction isn't a problem any longer. Please try this before killing us off with P2W/F2P what ever you choose to call it
That said, I don't buy EA anymore, only EA games I got this generation I've gotten for free, last gen I was buying at least 2 of their games a month...way to go. Ye I want Dead Space, but I want gaming to survive these braindead capitalists as well, so no $ to EA wins
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|Comment #42 by lucashp |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 12:16:04 PM
|Free to pay, pay to win? |
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|Comment #43 by darthbster |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 01:13:17 PM
|Guess I'll just keep my old systems then. If this is what the gaming industry is going to, then I'm done with "new" games. |
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|Comment #44 by Terminator |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 02:09:47 PM
|F2P will never work for most games and frankly if this does start to become widespread then I'm getting out of gaming, it's expensive enough as it is! All this will do is lead to an explosion in piracy and other illegal activities. |
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|Comment #45 by Totavier |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 02:36:48 PM
|Seriously who listen EA in this days?, ohh yeah some companies (not all but some) |
But anyway i'm not interested in that "free-to-play", and i don't think will work BUT who knows!..., EA introduced the "brilliant" idea of online/offline passes and nearly all the companies do it now!
So with this idea of free-to-play, well the time will say it...
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|Comment #46 by ZACHSP8 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 03:54:12 PM
|Great, every game is going to be like a Facebook game now, you get basic game free but if you want any perks or guns, you have to buy them with cash. |
they will make games so hard you have to purchase something to get any further in the games.
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|Comment #47 by insaneloverboy23 |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 10:06:44 PM
|simple answer boycott |
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|Comment #48 by amoremorte |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 10:15:13 PM
|"Hardcore gamers won't like to hear this. They like to circle the wagons around what they believe is something they feel they have helped build" |
This guy is a fucking douchebag, of course hardcore gamers have helped build the industry there's no "what they believe" about it, all gamers have helped build the industry and to assume only the Hardcore would be upset by the industry they've helped stay afloat over all these years turning into what i can only picture as a bunch of FarmVille clones is just fucking retarded
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|Comment #49 by Angry Gargoyle |
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 11:53:10 PM
|The more I see the future direction of gaming, the more I think this may be the last console I buy. |
I honestly think gaming peaked during the PS2 era.
Nowadays it is tacked on, unimaginative online MP and terribly overpriced DLC. Next gen it is microtransactions and online-only games (no discs to buy, just download)and ad breaks during games. Does anyone else see what is going on here?
I don't blame EA. They come up with an idea and decide to implement it, good for them. I blame the other developers/publishers that adopt the same abhorrent behaviour. If nobody else copied EA and smart people started to boycott EA games because of this, EA would change their tune pretty quickly.
It would be hard for me because Dead Space is my favourite game series, but If I had to pay 1 cent for every necromorph to spawn and fight? Get stuffed.
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|Comment #50 by MTURNER1985 |
Friday, June 22, 2012 @ 07:08:44 AM
|If this Happens i might just save up and get a gaming PC! At least i can get Full free games for that! |
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|Comment #51 by Fragpuss |
Friday, June 22, 2012 @ 11:33:52 AM
|no, free to play is not the future of the industry for most people, it is the future of the female farmville facebook addicts, but not for actual gamers |
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|Comment #52 by idloveacupoft |
Thursday, June 28, 2012 @ 03:24:10 AM
|"if you can move your index finger and swipe it this way, you're a gamer." |
I know lots of people that can do this, and they aren't gamers :)
Don't think this can be implemented in most games.
"They like to circle the wagons around what they believe is something they feel they have helped build - and rightly so"
I just wonder why he even bothers saying "and rightly so", after using the phrase "They like to circle the wagons around". Seems like a false acceptance on his behalf.
This is not the way gaming needs to go, but I will continue to have fun and play away :) Until I have a valid reason not to (e.g. the concept in the post is in full-flow), I'll keep playing :D
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|Comment #53 by Benmahalf |
Tuesday, July 03, 2012 @ 08:31:08 AM
|No thank you. Call me a hoarder but I LIKE being able to look at my games on the shelf and read the little booklets (which have become smaller and less colorful over the years / rant). Download only is for the birds. |
Wake up and smell the coffee EA. If you didn't shovel the same crap every year with different rosters and shut down the online servers for older games, more people would buy the older games and less people would hate having to buy/avoid buying the new version.
If you didn't gobble up software companies which developed good stuff prior to acquisition and then churned out crap afterward, people wouldn't hate you.
If you didn't say stupid crap like this people wouldn't hate you.
Honestly, the F2P model works on Facebook, Mixi and PC because the vast majority of the games are cheap to develop (and look decent, but face it they're no Skyrim, Uncharted 3, Halo or Assassin's Creed, just to name a few). They're supported by advertising attached to the whole page more than they are the extras that people buy.
Please, using "walking into The Gap" as an example. The intent of going to the Gap is to look at clothes, try them on and possibly buy them. The intent of buying a game is to enjoy the experience and get your money's worth after playing other games (in the series or by the same company), reading reviews, seeing preview trailers and AFTER HAVING BOUGHT IT.
I'd like to see someone from The Gap walk up to me after having bought a shirt and tell me that to be able to wear my shirt in the next city, I'll have to buy a jacket to go with it. GTFO.
The minute that someone spends a couple million dollars to make a F2P game and falls flat on their ass when people don't P2W will be the wake-up call. Maybe EA can survive that day, or maybe they'll fold, but they'll learn their lesson.