 | Capcom Defends On-Disc Downloadable Content Written Monday, April 02, 2012 By Lee Bradley View author's profile |
Capcom has moved to defend its decision to include post-launch DLC on-disc, saying that it makes no difference where premium downloadable content is stored.
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| Forum Posts: 144 | Comment #1 by EmptyFibers Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 12:43:53 PM | (-41)    |
| ...the world is full of cry babies and that is the bottom line! Don't like it, don't buy it.... Pretty easy concept. | ||
| Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #2 by DXBlaze Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 12:45:36 PM | (32) |
| I think it's pretty stupid. I mean, downloadable content is supposed to be either content that couldn't fit into the game, or that wasn't finished in time for the game's release or, as it all started, extra content to be available later on, for players to have a little more to play after they were done with the game. Now, if the DLC is already in disc, why the f**k are we paying (in this case) more £20 for somethign we already have? That was a pretty lame excuse. Capcom has failed here.  | ||
| Forum Posts: 231 | Comment #3 by Im567 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 12:51:49 PM | (1) |
| #2 I actually thought that it's better cause it saves download time, but you convinced me - it isn't right that content is already ready when the game is ready, but they are keeping it from us... | ||
| Forum Posts: 1617 | Comment #4 by eLefAdEr Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 12:52:05 PM | (0) |
| It interesting to see how publishers try to defend the Day-1 DLC that's becoming more and more frequent with new releases. The complaints have more to do with the fact that it exists at all; does it really matter how it's delivered? | ||
| Forum Posts: 51 | Comment #5 by Avan Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 12:52:06 PM | (0) |
| oh well that's the reason i don't buy this kind from games from them anymore, better wait for the release of the final edition (Resident Evil 5, Street Fighter IV, Marvel Vs Capcom 3, now Street Fighter X Tekken). they can keep their sh*t of DLC. and of course, the fault is ours, because even with this lot still buy that cr*p of DLC, but as someone said before, is DLC don't want it don't buy it, as everything. | ||
| Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #6 by djthaiboxer Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 12:53:10 PM | (11) |
| Nickel and dime us to death...Its the name of the game these days. Whatever happened to unlocking characters after meeting certain in-game requirements??? hell, i remember back in the SF Alpha days you had to have your system/game on for like 75 hours to unlock Evil Ryu. Now its $5.99 or some BS. | ||
| Forum Posts: 349 | Comment #7 by LeonKennedy_UAE Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 12:54:38 PM | (-19) |
| that's right CAPCOM, whoever likes this is welcome and who doesn't can do smash their heads on nearest walls. no one pointed a gun at your heads forcing you to buy the game, if you buy something it's your responsibility. Don't buy something and then complain about this or that. I don't care how many thumbs downs does this get or what people will say about it but sometimes you must face the truth and blame yourself. | ||
| Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #8 by kid_Jump94 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 12:56:10 PM | (1) |
| @1 its more of a we like it, so we buy it and then we find out what we liked is partly blocked. But crying like a baby really does get it done, i mean we buy this game for the fighting and the fighters, i mean how dare they block something thats are main purpose for buying it. so hopefully they'll include all the game in their next game. | ||
| Forum Posts: 2519 | Comment #9 by Yoda91192 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 12:56:49 PM | (2) |
| Man fuck a CASHCOM. | ||
| Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #10 by Badcompany87 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 12:56:50 PM | (2) |
| My problem with this is that it feels like they made a game on a disc and choose to cut out about 20% so they could make more money im guessing putting the 12 characters on a disc is cheaper then putting it up on PSN and XBLA too! What ever happened to the old method of fighting games where you play the arcade mode clear it, get a ending for that character then UNLOCK A NEW CHARACTER FOR NOTHING! | ||
| Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #11 by Badcompany87 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 01:00:22 PM | (1) |
| And it aint only Capcom doing this just look at Mass Effect 3 and ask yourself how many answers where left unanswered from that ending and why? so they can release all the answers as DLC so they can make more money! | ||
| Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #12 by DXBlaze Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 01:03:33 PM | (3) |
| Really, if this path keeps being followed, we'll all pay for a game only to reach half of it and get a message on-screan saying "End of Part 1 - Please pay again to unlock the rest of the game." And many are saying "don't like it don't buy it". That just ain't the point. The problem is having to buy for something that should be free in the first place, either we liked it or not. | ||
| Forum Posts: 4283 | Comment #13 by oversoul53 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 01:05:15 PM | (0) |
| day one DLC = money making scheme. That hole is starting to look deeper and deeper... | ||
| Forum Posts: 187 | Comment #14 by Gay Angel Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 01:05:23 PM | (1) |
| The true problem here in my opinion is that Capcom focused too much on the DLC than the actual game. As fun as I'm having fun with Street Fighter x Tekken it feels like I'm playing a Beta. | ||
| Forum Posts: 115 | Comment #15 by Tarqosis Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 01:11:03 PM | (5) |
| I'm much more concerned about the endings being withheld to sell DLC (ME3, Asuara's Wrath, FFXIII-2) than Disc Locked Content. When I buy a game, I expect a full game, not 2/3 of it. Novels don't withhold the final chapters, nor do movies. People that don't want the extras characters won't buy them, it's as simple as that. However, it's hard to imagine ANYONE being ok with getting an incomplete story. Sell me DLC that enriches the experience, rather than completing it. Bonus items, scenarios/quests/costumes. Selling the ending seperate from the game should be a crime. | ||
| Forum Posts: 144 | Comment #16 by EmptyFibers Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 01:11:15 PM | (-20) |
| People act as if this is something new..., devs have been doing this for a good while now. Come on folks! Your all just mad because you ain't getting shit for FREE! CRY BABIES! | ||
| Forum Posts: 21907 | Comment #17 by mjc0961 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 01:16:05 PM | (16) |
| "There is effectively no distinction between the DLC being 'locked' behind the disc and available for unlocking at a later date, or being available through a full download at a later date, other than delivery mechanism." Yes there is. People already paid $60 for the disc. Now you want them to pay more for content that is already finished and on the disc they paid for. No. Fuck you. When you actually MAKE new content, that's when you can ask people to pay more money. But locking out content that's already done before the game goes gold and trying to sell it as "premium DLC" is just bullshit. This is just a scam to make people pay more for the game. Pretty soon they'll start locking out chunks of single player games using this garbage excuse. Want to play Overtime Mode in Dead Rising 3? Sorry. It's already finished, it's on the disc you paid $60 for, but you can't play it and get the good ending until you cough up another $10 because it's DLC but delivered differently. No, Capcom, it's not. It's you locking content we paid for already until we pay even more. Like I said earlier, I'll pay for DLC when it's brand new content you created outside of the base game. I will not pay to unlock finished things I already paid for with my original $60. The only thing I have to remember to do from now on is wait for the games to come out and see which ones are doing this. EA tried to pretend that Mass Effect 3's day one DLC was brand new content... Then the game came out and that DLC was already in the game but locked as well. | ||
| Forum Posts: 1151 | Comment #18 by Brownchikano Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 01:21:45 PM | (1) |
| I personally really dont care, i mean 38 characters already....good enough for me. | ||
| Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #19 by abel1389 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 01:24:57 PM | (0) |
| every KB of locked-out DLC you stash away on your disc is a KB you could have put into the core game to make it better. I would rather have that and then have long download times for DLC from the PSN. So yes, It DOES make a difference, dipshits. | ||
| Forum Posts: 4283 | Comment #20 by oversoul53 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 01:31:56 PM | (0) |
| while on-disc DLC saves me hard drive space... full DLC released later saves me money and is less shady and corrupt. | ||
| Forum Posts: 4404 | Comment #21 by mjfan97 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 01:35:36 PM | (0) |
| @17 Couldn't explain it any better myself. | ||
| Forum Posts: 112 | Comment #22 by ii-Zangetsu-ii Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 01:36:06 PM | (0) |
| am so mad after I tried them on my frend 360 I really liked them & I never play the game since that -_- | ||
| Forum Posts: 13 | Comment #23 by BinayAnthrax Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 01:43:01 PM | (0) |
| Here I thought an EA 15 dollar 100kb key for Battlefield was bad. When you buy intellectual property, you are buying the rights to use what you are given, allowing you the access to what they choose. It's not free/shareware. It is a little sloppy to Capcom not to be little more technical in an explanation, focusing more on damage control. Fact is- don't buy a game if you want to complain about a DLC delivery system that is cheaper for the company. The product quality is not suffering from extra characters on-disc, nor has any in the past. I miss the old days of unlocking players buy fighting, certainly was more pleasant then additional money spending. Thank you spoiled juice-box generation, thanks. | ||
| Forum Posts: 48 | Comment #24 by Atreyu_1220 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 01:51:29 PM | (0) |
| £20 for 12 characters.... Really? | ||
| Forum Posts: 313 | Comment #25 by ItaChuPR Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 01:58:46 PM | (0) |
| makes no difference to sell to half done product and release dlc later ..... right but its wrong to unlock it ïllegally"on 360 lol .... FU cashcom | ||
| Forum Posts: 3 | Comment #26 by NoobBlast Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 02:06:15 PM | (1) |
| I totally agree with post #2 and #3 among others. On disc day 1 DLC is finished before the disc is printed, and is already partof the game, but locked. There is no excuse which is good enough for this. Its only a way getting 70€ instead of 50€. They cant increase the price of the game, so they are making day 1 DLC instead. One of the real reasons, is that there is way too many new games and its hard to earn the money back. The easiest way to get more for a game is to add 1 day DLC. | ||
| Forum Posts: 691 | Comment #27 by nostros Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 02:35:43 PM | (1) |
| To me it destory's what dlc is founded on. The whole thing about dlc is that the person or people working on the game desided to keep makeing more and for their extra effort we give them extra money. Having it on the disc waiting to be unlocked is the same as paying a guy 2 or 3 time's for the same effort he put in it's just week's later he tell's you he did this as well. | ||
| Forum Posts: 1281 | Comment #28 by GD09 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 02:46:09 PM | (1) |
| haha jokes on you capcom cause now im never going to buy a game with your name on it and im sure im not the only one. | ||
| Forum Posts: 452 | Comment #29 by sanchezz4387 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 02:46:17 PM | (3) |
| Look the whole issue is when people buy a game they expect to have the full game/product. The fact that 12 characters are on the disc and CAPCOM want to charge an extra £20 is just extortion plain and simple. Heck if it was seperate dlc then by all means ignore it or whatever but this content is on the disc, therefore anyone who has paid for the disc isn't getting the full content, that to me is robbery. I hate people who say don't like it don't buy it, that's not the Right attitude. YouR basically excusing this sort of dirty cash grabbing tactic and it shouldn't be encouraged in the slightest bit, when did the world change to the point that people actually believe we should accept a half ass product for full retail price? | ||
| Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #30 by StAjora Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 02:54:37 PM | (0) |
| Yes just dont expect me to buy any capcom game upon release ... | ||
| Forum Posts: 842 | Comment #31 by JoBot 8000 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 02:56:25 PM | (5) |
| I swear if I hear one more comment about gamers being entitled, whiny crybabies... Bottom line, we are consumers and have every right to question these sort of business ethics. And anyone who says "if you don't like it, don't buy it" is a cretin, please grow up and bring something meaningful to the conversation. | ||
| Forum Posts: 220 | Comment #32 by DanDx Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 03:02:55 PM | (3) |
| "There is effectively no distinction between the DLC being 'locked' behind the disc and available for unlocking at a later date, or being available through a full download at a later date, other than delivery mechanism." Oh but there is a huge difference you bunch of idiots, and you know the difference perfectly, you just like to play dumb. The difference is that if it's on a later date it means that it could only be finished after the release date... I'm all for DLC, I like to have more stuff in my game, but if it's stuff they made in time to put it on the disk, but then, after we buy said disk, they just lock it out for us to pay to access what WE bought? What was already supposed to be on the game? That is like us buying shoes and then paying seperate for shoelaces. Why doesn't Capcom just say it out loud instead of trying to cover it up - They don't care, not even a single bit about the costumer. Flexibility of the gameplay? That has got to be the lamest excuse I've ever heard, seriously. What Capcom really means, is that they couldn't be more preoccupied with what we get, they choose what they put on their disk, and if we don't like it, we should get the heck out. Bunch of money rats, I'll only buy their games used, that company deserves to burn. | ||
| Forum Posts: 220 | Comment #33 by DanDx Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 03:04:45 PM | (0) |
| Makes no difference for them. | ||
| Forum Posts: 1202 | Comment #34 by SoPoF Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 03:06:48 PM | (1) |
| Don't see why this is so hard to grasp, Capcom: people don't like it, so don't do it. Simple as that. | ||
| Forum Posts: 11 | Comment #35 by timewarp Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 03:14:59 PM | (4) |
| "At Capcom, we value our customers" Silly Capcom, April Fools was yesterday! To the people accusing these guys complaining of being cry babies do you actually understand what's going on here? It's not like what happened with Mass Effect or any of the other situations. People have a right to be upset because their esstinatial paying for something they already bought. I'm indifferant to Capcom now, I don't hate them. I nothing them. Capcom are digging their own grave and I can't even be bothered to watch anymore, even that's become boring. It's a shame because Capcom make great games but they make such stupid choices and then they pull bullshit like this and make it even worse with comments like there's no diffence between Locked DLC and Future Downloads. Well of course there is one of them is a degrading insulting piece of shit with anyone who even suggests doing it deserving of being skinned and dragged through broken glass and fire and the other is Future Downloads. You know what? I'm trying to get into the games industry. If you want add me on PSN (funnydude6556) and I'll tell you if I ever make it as a big company. Please if I EVER end up pulling the kind of shit these guys like Capcom do please do me a favour and warn me about what I'm doing. | ||
| Forum Posts: 493 | Comment #36 by Shirokurou Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 03:29:05 PM | (0) |
| We all know that DLC will net them extra cash... Really, who cares where it's stored, as long as it's day 1 DLC? you either disagree with the whole thing or ignore the static. | ||
| Forum Posts: 1655 | Comment #37 by R353ARCH D35TROY Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 03:30:31 PM | (-4) |
| Most you guys arguing be honest for a minute, were you interested in picking this game up in the first place? | ||
| Forum Posts: 79 | Comment #38 by bmxnick76 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 03:31:09 PM | (0) |
| I wish they would just say "we do this to make more money". Then it would be truthful at least... Because that explanation means nothing. | ||
| Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #39 by DXBlaze Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 03:39:09 PM | (2) |
| @37 I wasn't, and I won't. But that's not the point, as this won't be the only game where that'll happen, and neither will Capcom be the only company to do it. The only way for this to stop, is for us gamers, and buyers, to show somewhere, somehow (which right now is right here) how wrong we think they are. Not that it'll change anything, cause we all know by now that it won't. Still, haters gonna hate, and I'm hating. | ||
| Forum Posts: 2321 | Comment #40 by jqtaxpayer Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 03:44:46 PM | (3) |
| @38: Well, essentially they did, but in a way that maximizes the insult to our intelligence. In short, Capcom, you're a bunch of whores and you can keep your DLC because I'm not buying. | ||
| Forum Posts: 704 | Comment #41 by andreslr6 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 04:03:13 PM | (0) |
| Yes, I was angry and this explanation made me even angrier. Even though I've never bought any CAPCOM game, now I know I'll never buy one for sure. | ||
| Forum Posts: 68 | Comment #42 by Jandeku Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 04:13:23 PM | (0) |
| In the end, On-Disc DLC just means one thing: You bought the game disc, but at the same time, you didn't, because part of what you've brought home is still not yours. So you have to pay twice for part of what's already in your hands, physically. If this keeps up, one day you'll have to pay to get the disc, and pay again to make it run. | ||
| Forum Posts: 1612 | Comment #43 by WINAS3 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 04:14:38 PM | (0) |
| Cash Appropriating Products Consuming Our Money Horrible PR rep whoever it was... | ||
| Forum Posts: 68 | Comment #44 by Jandeku Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 04:16:22 PM | (2) |
| And sorry for double-posting (this needs an Edit function, badly), but there's something else I wanted to point out: "On-Disc DLC" is, by itself, a paradox. If it's already on the disc, it's not "Downloadable Content" at all. You're just paying for unlockables for which there's no in-game method to get. | ||
| Forum Posts: 1 | Comment #45 by burgermike92 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 04:19:11 PM | (-1) |
| I think people really complain about how much some of the DLC can cost. That's my only nitpick about the DLC. I don't really care about the DLC already being on the disc, I just want it to be a reasonable price that's worth the content.For example, the 12 characters that are 20 bucks, I would personally put it at $4.99. That's way better in my opinion. | ||
| Forum Posts: 1495 | Comment #46 by MTURNER1985 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 04:31:13 PM | (0) |
| Just dont buy the games, let the companys lose money for there ignorance! | ||
| Forum Posts: 284 | Comment #47 by brandaman69 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 04:38:34 PM | (-1) |
| can people just give it a rest don't like it don't buy it don't care go buy it its that simple | ||
| Forum Posts: 26 | Comment #48 by Dearu Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 04:38:45 PM | (0) |
| It's CA$HCOM, what do you expect? DLC to not be on the disc? Oh wait... | ||
| Forum Posts: 26 | Comment #49 by ptr362 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 04:54:12 PM | (0) |
| So PS3 users get charged £20 for this "premium" content, but this same content is planned to be given for free on the Vita version... Which will probably be cheaper than the PS3 version as well. I hope that when Namco create their Tekken x Street Fighter game, they don't treat their customers in the same way as Capcom. | ||
| Forum Posts: 31 | Comment #50 by ZombieHunter13 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 05:03:29 PM | (2) |
| in the past, when we bought a game, we got a full game with extra costumes, weapons, items,.... now you have to buy all this seperately and even worse it's on disc wtf is wrong with just loading all the crap on the disc and when customers buy they can access it? progress is regress | ||
| Forum Posts: 172 | Comment #51 by Cloud AC Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 05:09:48 PM | (0) |
| The only way I could approve this is if the so-called DLC (it's not really DLC, if it's already on disc) was free. | ||
| Forum Posts: 82 | Comment #52 by ZombieLover84 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 05:11:09 PM | (-5) |
| Capcom is right. They choose, as any company can, to sell Street Fight x Tekken with 38 playable character's out of the box, the modes of play, etc. They choose, and made it aware, that is what you get for your 60 dollars.' The additional 12 characters, even if on the disc, were never apart of the original buy, regardless if it's locked on the disc, downloaded later, etc. Don't cry because you feel entitled to something that a business decides to charge for. Tough shit. Vote with your wallet. Capcom gave you everything it advertised for the 60 dollars. If it want's additional profit regardless if it was finished before or after the games release for more content, that is their choice, and of course YOUR choice to buy it or not. You can't blame Capcom, as they have not deceived you one bit. You got your 60 dollar advertised game. The additional character, on disc or not, are just that. Additional. And they come with a price tag. | ||
| Forum Posts: 9 | Comment #53 by Glyphsaiyan858 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 05:14:19 PM | (-5) |
| I'm sorry to sound so blunt, but diplomacy over this is pointless. You are crybabies. They speak the truth, whether the content you have bought is on the disc or from the PSN absolutely matters to the sum total of zero. You bought the game, yes? You enjoy the game... yes? You feel the need to pay out lord-knows-what for (insert game name here)'s DLC, yes? Because you -want- it and to -enjoy- it, yes? Then... does it really matter if you've bought the 'key' for the DLC already on the disc, which, makes the download file smaller... thus, getting you access to the content faster... or whether you download the entire content from the Store? It doesn't matter. It's done, bitching about the content's delivery does -not-... I repeat, -NOT- matter. End of. | ||
| Forum Posts: 21907 | Comment #54 by mjc0961 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 05:16:56 PM | (0) |
| @37: Whether or not people wanted this particular game is irrelevant. What a lot of people don't want is to buy a game for $60 and then pay another $10-$20 to gain access to the rest of the game that's already on the disc. Waiting until they do it to a game you wanted is stupid. Speak up and say no to it the first time they do it, regardless of if you wanted that game or not. Otherwise, the next time they pull this shit, it will be in a game you did want. | ||
| Forum Posts: 4881 | Comment #55 by Loftus Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 05:17:25 PM | (3) |
| It's sad to see how a potentially good addition for gaming (DLC) can be miss-used so much by greedy companies who have no desire to provide a better gaming experience. Capcom, take a good look at Rockstar. They released entire new stories for GTA 4, including new characters, weapons, vehicles, music and two new plots for cheaper than your characters that are already on the disc. The irony is i'm sure we'll see an article from capcom in a year's time stating they're going into administration and they 'dont know where we've gone wrong' try making games your priority rather than money once in a while. | ||
| Forum Posts: 4881 | Comment #56 by Loftus Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 05:20:42 PM | (0) |
| @53 it's nothing to do with delivery. The point is that if it's a download nobody can prove how long it's taken them to release this content in addition to the original game. If it's already on the damn disc when you buy it then they've intentionally removed content that is already made to simply charge you for it later down the line. Where do you draw the line with it? what if they started with half the amount of characters and had another £20 worth of 'DLC' characters that were on the disc from the start? The people who are annoyed are the ones that can see how good gaming can be and how badly it's being ruined by pure greed. | ||
| Forum Posts: 6 | Comment #57 by VagrantSquall Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 05:29:54 PM | (0) |
| Sorry LeonKenedy, but if you are paying one disc with all software, why pay for the unlock keys of that content? and then Whats means DLC(Downloaded Conntent)? Im so angry and almost all guys who like play games | ||
| Forum Posts: 690 | Comment #58 by PKopetzky Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 05:35:08 PM | (0) |
| If that's the only thing they can make money from, they're pretty muched doomed already. Write this quote on their gravestone. | ||
| Forum Posts: 3406 | Comment #59 by xX_shoemaker_Xx Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 05:57:35 PM | (2) |
| this just reinforces my idea to never buy a game on day one again. the reality is if i wait six months or so, i'll be able to get 'goty ultimate limited edition' with all of the dlc included for $39.99. way to go guys, you've done nothing but screw yourself out of money. congrats! | ||
| Forum Posts: 2275 | Comment #60 by Kahalachan Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 06:30:12 PM | (0) |
| "While Capcom is sorry that some of its fans are not happy about the chosen method of delivery for the DLC..." The only delivery method for DLC is through a download. Hence the name, Downloadable Content. | ||
| Forum Posts: 934 | Comment #61 by nintendo64X Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 07:07:35 PM | (0) |
| The point of dlc is to prolong a game's life span by adding content, akak DOWNLOADABLE content. If it's already on disc all you are doing is paying for a patch that unlocks something you already have. This wouldn't be so bad if this stuff was cheaper, but that isn't the case... Best thing to do guys is to NOT buy the dlc, sure the first comment here was an idiot but he kinda has a point-don't like it don't buy, it will hurt capcom when they realise no one is paying for dlc unlock patches... | ||
| Forum Posts: 1735 | Comment #62 by newgroundsguru Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 07:10:25 PM | (0) |
| DLC should be developed after the game is out to expand on the finished game. It's called downloadable content not unlockable content. Im sure everyone just feels like they are just paying more money on top of the money they had to spend on the game to unlock what should already be ready to be used.. | ||
| Forum Posts: 252 | Comment #63 by NTKrist Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 07:35:27 PM | (0) |
| Very simple, I'm voting with my wallet on this one & steering cleer thou I really want it. But I have a choice here, a) support the idea of paying to unlock unlockables that are already on my disc, or b) don't buy the game, write capcom and let them know of my decision, & pick it up for free at the library :) well, actually there is a c) here too, and I know 2 people that have gone that way, but that's to say screw it all & go jailbreak, and it's because of monsters like Capcom that more & more people I know are considering or have already made the switch to pirate gaming, as a statement against a market gone really awry along the line. & just you wait, soon capcom will be complaining over the large amount of piracy on this game, uggh, capitalists | ||
| Forum Posts: 252 | Comment #64 by NTKrist Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 07:42:18 PM | (0) |
| well, a friend of mine just texted that he went option d) :D Since the game costs 60$ & the dlc 20$ he's just gonna wait it out until he can find the game for ca 20$, shouldn't be long, already seen it at under 40$ That's a good option for the consumer, but still don't send the message to capcom as they've already got their full $ when the copies being sold at discounts get shifted, it's the stores discounting them that are making less | ||
| Forum Posts: 25 | Comment #65 by Nightwing Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 07:54:01 PM | (2) |
| This is the fault of all you Street Fighter fans. If you guys wouldn't drop money down on every single new release, then Capcom would not pull this stunt. But all you guys keep buying the same game over and over & keep dropping $60 each time. Plus you guys keep buying the outrageous overpriced DLC costumes as well. Street Fighter IV + all DLC. Super Street Fighter IV + all DLC Super Street Fighter IV: Arcade Edition + all DLC Marvel vs. Capcom III + all DLC Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom III + all DLC Street Fighter vs. Tekken + all DLC Do you guys see the trend here. Capcom knows you guys are sheep & will continue to sell these rehashed games for $60 + continue to sell overpriced DLC costumes & extra characters every now & then. When you guys decide to wake up and smell the coffee and finally say NO! and not buy any of it until they finally change, then I guarantee you that Capcom will realize this and stop doing it. But you guys need will power and that is something a lot of you don't have. | ||
| Forum Posts: 188 | Comment #66 by Jeevz Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 07:56:53 PM | (0) |
| Do you think the 12 character DLC will have trophies similar SSF4: AE had? | ||
| Forum Posts: 1612 | Comment #67 by WINAS3 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 08:11:48 PM | (0) |
| @^ No I do not. | ||
| Forum Posts: 251 | Comment #68 by coyoteduster Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 08:29:34 PM | (0) |
| No matter how you try to defend it CAPCOM, it's still a dick move. | ||
| Forum Posts: 45 | Comment #69 by tima022790 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 08:31:47 PM | (2) |
| Developer: Hey Boss, we finished the game! We are going to start on DLC, so can we have more development money? Capcom: Hmmm, we would have to spend money and time... Naaa lock 12 characters you've made already out of the game and hope those idiots don't notice that they are downloading a key on day 1. HAHAHAHA | ||
| Forum Posts: 93 | Comment #70 by Agios19 Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 08:55:41 PM | (1) |
| I could forgive Capcom had they come up with a better excuse. Or an apology. Or stating that this was an experimental move that -hopefully for us- wouldn't have any successors. But instead, they underestimate our intelligence. Here's how it works: We don't thank you for the "extra" content mr.Company. You live by OUR money, you give us the best you can, you are obligated to do so. You try to trick us, no more money. That simple. | ||
| Forum Posts: 300 | Comment #71 by Totavier Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 09:35:34 PM | (0) |
| Beeing honest i really hate the way of how Capcom makes their DLC, i mean DLC stand for Downloable Content Right?, and the original idea was put new-and-never-seen-before content in the game but since now nearly all the game that i see has locked content as DLC, bleh!... pathetic.... More stupid about this is the fact that influence that the biggest companies try to doing this too, remember the online pass?, thank you EA now everyone do it. Why Capcom cann't be like the small studios like Rockstar and 2K Games?, those studios aren't big and sometimes they have economical issues with their owners Takes-Two but besides of that problems, they create REAL DLC, content never putted (or even intented in create it) on the disc So whatever say Capcom about this, is not enough for me... | ||
| Forum Posts: 2 | Comment #72 by GhostlyShame Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 10:06:57 PM | (0) |
| dlc ruined gaming and capcom sure helped. don't like it , don't buy it, right? well, i didn't buy. nor will i ever. i used to love capcom games, but they turned into greedy assholes who will one day reap what they sow. it hurts not playing the newest StreetFighter. I grew up with this franchise. But i'm so sick of paying full price for half of a game. And now with the ps4 making things worse... yeah, i'm pretty much done with gaming. | ||
| Forum Posts: 834 | Comment #73 by Guimace Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 11:06:54 PM | (1) |
| I love Capcom and I will keep buying their games. But guys, Capcom's Public Relations/Marketing staff must be FIRED right now. Come on, putting the DLC content on disc was one of the most stupid things I've seen in gaming in my entire life! Of course people would crack the game code and see the content was already done, and people would be angry at it (the moment they got busted I imagine Capcom's HQ as being Chris Redfield and Sheva in the scene they are spotted by the horde of Majinis (angry customers) - Chapter 1-1 of Resident Evil 5 :D ). If the content is ready and you want to sell it later, LIE. Say it is not ready yet and don't put it in the damn disc. Force everyone to download it via software update later (sure more expensive but the whole DLC-on disc fiasco has surely cost you more than some bandwidth paying for Sony/Microsoft). | ||
| Forum Posts: 37 | Comment #74 by brian pumpher Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 11:32:11 PM | (0) |
| i hate dlc ...it still just seems like a scam to me | ||
| Forum Posts: 349 | Comment #75 by LeonKennedy_UAE Monday, April 02, 2012 @ 11:57:41 PM | (0) |
| I also find this is to be a kinda funny thing to happen here is how it looks like: CAPCOM: we'll make a game called SFxT. PEOPLE: nah we won't buy it we know capcom...blah blah(and still bought it) CAPCOM: we'll put a DLC that if you wanna buy the DLC go ahead if not go f**k yourself. PEOPLE: WAAA!WAAA! T.T WAA THIS WAA THAT! ME: 0_0 CAPCOM: had enough of you, you bunch of zombies cry until tomorrow we won't care. ME: hell yea xD | ||
| Forum Posts: 21 | Comment #76 by COKE OR PEPSI Tuesday, April 03, 2012 @ 12:04:36 AM | (0) |
| @1 I lose a little bit of my soul every single time someone uses the phrase "don't like it, don't buy it". http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DontLikeDontRead?from=Main.ptitlej4vq9mgmlvmg | ||
| Forum Posts: 1766 | Comment #77 by alx681 Tuesday, April 03, 2012 @ 12:14:15 AM | (2) |
| initially the idea of dlc was great, and some developers still do a good job at it. But others have taken their shit to new levels.. capcom being the leader of the bunch.. besides the 3/4 releases a year that i must have on release, what i do is just wait for the GOTY edition. | ||
| Forum Posts: 284 | Comment #78 by brandaman69 Tuesday, April 03, 2012 @ 12:38:17 AM | (0) |
| people try to stop companies from making decisions it is really futile because they won't change and people are just wasting their time | ||
| Forum Posts: 8 | Comment #79 by JabaAxe12 Tuesday, April 03, 2012 @ 12:57:53 AM | (0) |
| I wonder how much more things are locked away on the disc... I hope other game companies don't start doing this... :( | ||
| Forum Posts: 4347 | Comment #80 by Asher1985 Tuesday, April 03, 2012 @ 02:21:08 AM | (0) |
| Despite DLC's original intention of prolonging the life of a game or simply providing more content, that's not what it is for nowadays. So I agree with the story, content locked on disc or downloadable makes no difference. You're getting ripped off either way. | ||
| Forum Posts: 2312 | Comment #81 by Crowquilt Tuesday, April 03, 2012 @ 03:28:41 AM | (1) |
| @79 oh it's going to happen. And this can't be ignored really, it's going be a trending thing amongst developers. If they're defending it, and really are innocent, why not just let the people pry open their discs(of whatever game) and see what's in there? I mean, if the dlc isn't really in there it couldn't hurt to just look.... Also, it's never going to end. capcom is starting a new trend to maximize cash accumulation from fans. Rewarding loyalty to a company by giving optimum gaming experience is gone. Loyalty = money. Bullshit. | ||
| Forum Posts: 272 | Comment #82 by HuDaFuK Tuesday, April 03, 2012 @ 03:31:33 AM | (1) |
| This whole DLC on-disc thing is a rip off. I don't see how people can justify or agree with it. And I love all you guys saying "if you don't like it, don't buy it..." That's just the problem, isn't it - I'VE ALREADY BOUGHT IT. It's on the disc I paid for. They just expect me to hand over more cash if I actually want to play it. | ||
| Forum Posts: 61 | Comment #83 by PoundyWSG Tuesday, April 03, 2012 @ 05:35:46 AM | (0) |
| To come to the conclusion whether someone is being ripped off by DLC, I think one should look at the game without the addition. In this case, not having the 12 extra characters doesn't do that much damage to the overal game. Is someone who hasn't got them going to have less fun? I don't think so. The game roster offers more than enough variety without the DLC. So with that mind I don't see this DLC as a rip off for us customers. At least I haven't felt that way. As for the DLC being on disc, would it cheer up the angry people if they had to buy it seperately and download it later on instead of buying it and unlocking it on-disc? I agree, it's the same deal, just a different distribution. | ||
| Forum Posts: 1822 | Comment #84 by Jimbo76 Tuesday, April 03, 2012 @ 06:42:42 AM | (0) |
| DLC is just that, DOWNLOADABLE CONTENT. not stick it on the retail disc that someone has already paid full retail price for. then a week later charge them another 20 quid. fucking money grabbers. | ||
| Forum Posts: 103 | Comment #85 by Callam001 Tuesday, April 03, 2012 @ 07:01:18 AM | (1) |
| I have no interest in this game what soever, however the fact the put the DLC on the disk then try to make you pay for it pisses me off so much. Its called DLC for a fucking reason. The thing i find funny is how they think it doesnt matter, but really it does | ||
| Forum Posts: 192 | Comment #86 by SirBodom Tuesday, April 03, 2012 @ 09:28:45 AM | (0) |
| Pardon my French but its bullsh*t. They started that crap with RE5 verses. I bought it but later felt robbed because of it. | ||
| Forum Posts: 220 | Comment #87 by DanDx Tuesday, April 03, 2012 @ 11:06:05 AM | (0) |
| This is stupid, other game companies sell their games at 60, why must Capcom sell it at 80? | ||
| Forum Posts: 23 | Comment #88 by McRedRover Tuesday, April 03, 2012 @ 12:29:11 PM | (1) |
| I can't really blame CRAPCOM. We, the gamers, are the ones who made it this way. We are talking about a company who will release 3-5 versions of the same game adding one thing or changing one thing and we go out and buy it again for $10 less then the release date price. This was only the next logical step for them. We are to blame for launch day DLC. Sad but true. | ||
| Forum Posts: 77 | Comment #89 by falconkeeper99 Tuesday, April 03, 2012 @ 05:35:59 PM | (2) |
| It just baffles me at times how far out of hand the whole DLC thing has gotten. As I read earlier in these posts, DLC is intended to be content that is created/downloaded at a time after the game was released. Its original purpose was to breathe extra life into games. These companies with day 1 DLC and DLC locked-on disc are basically spitting in the face of the consumer (at least in my opinion). They are not breathing new life into the game or even creating new content for the game... They are simply saying, thanks for the $60 now give us some more money for the product you just bought (I know its optional and I know they do not receive the full $60 per sale). However, I hold no illusions and know this is just gonna get worse as time goes on. It seems to have been a fairly successful thing for the companies or I would assume that they would have stopped doing it by now. Unless the consumer shows the company (by not paying for the "DLC") that we are unwilling to tolerate this, it will continue. On a side note, nothing is too stop them from doing the same thing, and just holding off a month or two on releasing the content. At least that wouldn't seem as blatant a rip-off. Personally, I tend to enjoy CAPCOM games and will continue to buy the ones I want... I just refuse to pay for "DLC" from a company that acts like this. | ||
| Forum Posts: 77 | Comment #90 by falconkeeper99 Tuesday, April 03, 2012 @ 05:38:27 PM | (1) |
| @#83: Your right, it is just a different distribution, but at least downloading the content, as opposed to it being stored on disc, will allow people to believe they are not being ripped off. I think this is more of a blatant vs. subtle way to scam people out of money. And CAPCOM has just hit people over the head with a baseball bat (read: NOT SUBTLE AT ALL). | ||
| Forum Posts: 93 | Comment #91 by Agios19 Wednesday, April 04, 2012 @ 05:39:34 PM | (1) |
| I'm sorry to say this, but companies "encourage" piracy with all this DLC crap. | ||
| Forum Posts: 260 | Comment #92 by AriaOfSorrow Friday, April 06, 2012 @ 06:26:12 PM | (0) |
| I'm just glad to see so many people here against it. On other forums, people actually act like it's fun giving companies as much money as possible. Some people don't want to acknowledge that if they have "day one" download content, "locked on disc"... we are getting an inferior product. They used the development time and money that was to be spent on the actual game on this "download content". That is absolutely no different than if they bought race cars with the development money and spent the time at work racing them in the parking lot, rather than making the game. Either way, we aren't getting a better game out of it, and they are wasting resources that should be used on the actual game. In the case of this download content, they are using it for something else just to get a bigger profit. And that's what it comes down to. Anyway to make us pay more, they will. As long as we allow them to. | ||
| Forum Posts: 0 | Comment #93 by King judah Saturday, April 07, 2012 @ 07:21:09 PM | (0) |
| What does the green ribbon mean in the first persons message box | ||
| Forum Posts: 12 | Comment #94 by rutger666 Monday, April 09, 2012 @ 03:52:30 AM | (0) |
| @#53 you're a twat. Now for the rip off dlc, it is a big rip off to pay for something already on disc which we've already paid for. I thought the whole idea of dlc was to extend the games playing life months after it came out and new content the developers have made after release. also dlc stands for downloadable content. In this case we aren't actually downloading any content, merely a code to "unlock" content on the disc and for all you idiots who say don't like it don't buy it and would you have bought the game anyway, Well if you remember the 1st dlc on resident evil 5 was a code and i bet they'll do the same for resident evil 6. So whether or not you'd have bought this game i guarantee we'll all buy at least 1 game in future that features on disc dlc. Or hopefully not cos if resident evil 6 has it i won't be buying it. We should all show our disgust by not buying any games that feature on disc dlc. | ||
| Forum Posts: 7 | Comment #95 by jombedard Tuesday, April 10, 2012 @ 02:32:53 PM | (0) |
| why should we have to pay for something that should be on the disk well one reason companies are now doing this is look at how much money FPS make on their dlc. yes those are more valid as they are extra maps but these other companies must be looking at it and asking themselves why cant we have a some of this cash cow of DLC. hence cutting 20% to bill us for it later. its not like they could you know develop more stuff for it, they have to cut some to make it easier. i mean personally i will buy dlc for the games i think are worth it but if you release a disk based game why cant it be a full game not 80% of a game | ||
| Forum Posts: 24 | Comment #96 by Cozad2112 Sunday, April 15, 2012 @ 01:29:31 AM | (0) |
| i agree with # 65. and whyyy arree theree soo many add on names to basically the same numbered game and sell it as new retail games?! whats next? super street fighter IV arcade turbo sigma HD ??? why are there soo many street fighter games in general.? come on, are they trying to have more SF games than there are Final Fantasy games? lol. but i love the FF series though haha. anyways i used to enjoy SF series until Capcom pulled this 'dlc/Disc content unlock' stunt. oh and also until i took an arrow to the knee. ;D Capcom must have some excellent fukin archers am i right? but instead of having mercenaries make games, they should have hired some decent human beings. Mother of God i need a cigarette now lol. | ||
| Forum Posts: 251 | Comment #97 by BjarneBiceps Wednesday, April 18, 2012 @ 06:37:26 AM | (0) |
| @11 not true. the Mass effect 3 DLC, with the "different ending" will be free of charge. ;) so it's not the same. . | ||
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