The Cloudy Trophy News from Leipzig Written Saturday, August 23, 2008 by Webb Today was an indifferent day for the Trophy system. I literally got a different response everytime I asked the question, but the results point to more than negative for today. Let me give you a quick rundown. Dead Space - Trophy Support Confirmed Midnight Club LA - Trophy situation unknown Damnation - Not anticipating supporting it, too late in the development Project Origin - Should support Trophies (already kind of confirmed at E3 anyway) Fallout 3 - Still unsure LEGO Batman - Not supporting Trophies but "supporting Remote Play" Well, starting off with finding out Dead Space will support trophies was a great start to the day but then the day never really lived up to its early climax and trying to get a straight answer out of Pete Hines, product manager of Fallout 3 about whether the title will receive trophies was never easy. I personally believe that it won't receive trophies because that is twice now that he has avoided the same question and the game is a little over 2 months away ... let's hope they prove me wrong. Anyway, that's it regarding trophy support or confirmation as our last appointment was yesterday, but fear not, it seems as if the developers/publishers are slowly latching on to them and this time next year, chances are every title will support them. |
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| Comment #1 by retepeilsme Saturday, August 23, 2008 @ 04:55:48 PM chances are every title will support them. is that including older games oh and great work guys | |
| Comment #2 by maybe_mike123 Saturday, August 23, 2008 @ 04:56:29 PM so glad about dead space...looks mint =D | |
| Comment #3 by ADPolicenaut Saturday, August 23, 2008 @ 04:57:06 PM I thought Project Origin was confirmed to have trophies? | |
| Comment #4 by Nick-30 Saturday, August 23, 2008 @ 05:12:35 PM Im Pissed, there's no GTA 4 trophy support (well they haven't mentioned they're adding trophies and they haven't mentioned they aren't adding trophies) | |
| Comment #5 by jamby Saturday, August 23, 2008 @ 05:17:35 PM Fallout 3 better be adding some damned trophies. I'm also kind of pissed about Project Origin not having trophies, I thought it should have. Meh, can't really win em all. | |
| Comment #6 by Pesico Saturday, August 23, 2008 @ 06:50:05 PM @#1: That would be new releases. | |
| Comment #7 by SylarEatsBrains Saturday, August 23, 2008 @ 07:14:10 PM According to this link: http://www.gamespot.com/video/932145/6194516/project-origin-e3-2008-stage-show-demo, Origin will have trophies. Check the 12:30 mark | |
| Comment #8 by guillemadrid Saturday, August 23, 2008 @ 09:00:49 PM The work that you guys are doing is great, but i only have two questions: 1. Is GTA IV going to support trophies? 2. Is MGS4 going to support trophies?. The list is growing and growing and that's a good thing, but unfortunately the games that we want to hear aren't mentioned. | |
| Comment #9 by Milkman Saturday, August 23, 2008 @ 09:21:23 PM i am so exited about fallout3, if there r no trophies for it the sea will run white with my rage! | |
| Comment #10 by Nick-30 Saturday, August 23, 2008 @ 10:27:14 PM @#8 that's exactly what i think. | |
| Comment #11 by ar91207 Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 01:23:36 AM OK I was gonna buy Lego batman but I'm not anymore. I'm only buying trophy supported games so the developers take a hint. | |
| Comment #12 by dallan90 Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 09:38:38 AM yeah i have the same idea as #11 dont buy gmes that dont support trophies we will teach the developers a thing or too. luckily the games i were intrested in: mirrors edge bioshock far cry 2 killzone 2 motorstorm 2 littlebig planet and resistance 2 have them i might even buy uncharted again for its trophies just to try get my point heard. but the game i really want to have trophies are GTA IV havnt heard anything from them BF:BC it has its own "tropy" system so it cant be that hard cod4: ive heard their not going too but im just keeping my fingers crossed lol | |
| Comment #13 by stux56 Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 03:07:04 PM yay, I've been waiting for Dead Space. Looks really awesome, and now it has trophies too?! Cant wait for that one, hopefully it'll be a great game. | |
| Comment #14 by JamesSoprano Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 03:08:58 PM I'm not up and arms over Fallout 3 looks nice but it doesn't grab me all that much from what i have saw of it ... if it doesn't get trophies ( which is probably the case ) then i'm not gonna bother getting it. | |
| Comment #15 by notquiteninja Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 05:01:28 PM What!? You guys are crazy. You would seriously not play a potentially amazing game, just because it doesn't support a couple little pixels of e-peen? Wow.....and you call yourself gamers. | |
| Comment #16 by guillemadrid Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 06:36:28 PM It's not about "pixels of e-peen" it's about the developers to take seriously the trophy thing just as xbox 360 achivements. | |
| Comment #17 by Xanotos Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 07:11:39 PM will sacred 2 support trophies and will they patch any existing games cause not everyone can afford to go out and buy a game as soon as it comes out | |
| Comment #18 by notquiteninja Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 07:57:44 PM It is definitely a plus when a developer adds in an extra incentive for replay value, such as trophies. Still, it becomes nonsense when that is the ONLY reason you will play a game, is if you are rewarded with a stupid digital prize. OH YES, TROPHY!!! ACHEIVEMENT!!!! those look great on resumes, along with your 70 hunter. A great game is a great game regardless of whether or not it supports trophies. Fallout 3 will own you so hard, and half of me hopes it doesn't have trophies so that people like you won't get to enjoy it, because you'll only play it if it gives you little pats on the back every now and then. | |
| Comment #19 by guillemadrid Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 08:44:54 PM Of course, it's stupid to play a games just for the trophies, but the trophy system is now implemented on ours ps3 and it should be a standard on all upcoming games not just an extra incentive for replay value. Now if some people won't buy a game because a developer don't want to do some extra job (that they do on the 360 version) it's understandable (may or not be my case), but it doesn't mean that person play games just for the trophies. My point is, 360 games have mandatory achievements, right? So why not Trophies? | |
| Comment #20 by rukusa Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 09:47:54 PM Im pretty sure Project Origin was confirmed to support them. Man, there's alot of conflicting reports about trophies at dev houses :/. | |
| Comment #21 by rukusa Sunday, August 24, 2008 @ 09:49:11 PM To be honest I think Bethesda is out ther to intentionally scorn PS3 owners. They're already mooning us by giving exclusive content to the rivaling platform. Which me is a signal in itself. | |
| Comment #22 by XxSwiftPainxX Monday, August 25, 2008 @ 04:35:13 AM They seem to be constantly stating different games that will or will not be supported by trophies but for some strange and unknown reason more games made only for ps3 have trophies except bioshock, ect. so y cant they just make up their minds for a game to have trophies at release from now to whenever | |
| Comment #23 by Mmatty1984 Monday, August 25, 2008 @ 10:51:52 AM Are Fifa 09 and PES 09 goin support tropies does anyone know. | |
| Comment #24 by dallan90 Monday, August 25, 2008 @ 01:38:12 PM at #15 im saying when it comes to a choice between a great that does and a great game that doesnt support trophies and i only have cash for the 1 then i know what i will go for trophies give a game an extra incentive to play the game again its not like it wont benefit the developers at most a days works to add what you said "a few pixels of e-peen" whatever the hell e-peen means take example uncharted sold alot before its patch sold even more after it people buying a second copy because of it if developers are too stupid to relise the benefits of the trophy system to them they deserve to go out of buisness. the guys who said it was too late in developement are lazy.. patch the game the only time its too late is when your well into the deveopement of a sequel or a new project... as for gta4 | |
| Comment #25 by nateredish Monday, August 25, 2008 @ 02:22:30 PM I completely agree with #19 trophies should be mandotory just like achievements. I own all 3 consoles and play all of them, with the Wii being at the bottom of that list. But givin a choice between a ps3 game that doesn't have trophies and a 360 game that has achievements I think you know where my money will go. I also know for a fact that devs have said it is not hard at all to implement achievements on the 360, I know the ps3 architecture is more complicated but it can't be that much harder to do, even if it is "late" in development. I'm with #24 "late"=lazy. | |
| Comment #26 by MrJolly Monday, August 25, 2008 @ 05:28:49 PM notquiteninja, I'm not sure you understand...it's not that a few little pixels make the difference between wether a game is good or not...I've been playing GTAIV and having fun with it even though it doesn't yet support trophies and may never support trophies...do I feel like it could be better if it DID support trophies? Yes...does the Xbox360 have an edge over it because it has Achievement points? Yes...do I feel like Rockstar Games is short-changing PS3 owners if they do not release a patch to support trophies? Absolutely. It's about taking full advantage of the hardware and benefits of the hardware. I have been dying to play Fallout 3...but if they don't support trophies, I will NOT buy the game, but instead enjoy Bio Shock, Resistance 2, Wipeout HD, Warhawk, Motorstrom 2, etc...D | |
| Comment #27 by JustContribute Monday, August 25, 2008 @ 10:02:22 PM Project Origin should be getting trophies, at least that's what you posted on the site around a month ago. http://www.ps3trophies.org/news-17-Project-Origin-Should-Get-Trophies.html | |
| Comment #28 by eddieedwards Monday, August 25, 2008 @ 11:11:05 PM is there any news on infamous having trophies? i think theres loads of fun to be had in that game just like in ps2 game Psi-Ops, loved that game. | |
| Comment #29 by Webb Monday, August 25, 2008 @ 11:51:27 PM JC, you are correct, that was me getting my wires crossed. Thanks =) | |
| Comment #30 by Merfolk Tuesday, August 26, 2008 @ 08:26:23 AM Man, i think i know why they saying nothing about Fallout 3 - probably they do not want us to spoil our playing! if you read description of the trophies - you may find out there some hints - so i hope that trophies will be activated after completetion of a campaign! This is my IMHO, but maybe Bethesda will do definetly it... From Russia with love! | |
| Comment #31 by Slash1020 Wednesday, August 27, 2008 @ 12:49:57 AM wat about SOCOM? sucks bout Project Origin | |
| Comment #32 by CipherSeven Wednesday, August 27, 2008 @ 08:42:50 PM SOCOM is a Sony IP, it will have trophy support. As for Fallout 3, I also will not bying it if it lacks trophy support. It's obvious bethesda is in bed with microsoft. | |
| Comment #33 by JinxXIII Friday, August 29, 2008 @ 11:42:30 AM My memory mustn't be what it used to be, but every magazine, comment & source made the same basic statement a few months back that ' as late as December, nearly all to be released games ( and some retroactive ) will contain some trophy support '. Looking at these lists makes me anticipate some & happy to return to others ( oh Uncharted, why did I stop playing you? ), however, these 'few' do NOT make up for the 'many'. I understand production cycles & maybe difficulty with retro-patching ( come on GTA ), but did I miss something? When did this list of a handful of games become 'every game with trophy support '? I do enjoy the verbal ' skewering' & the uncomfortable silences these reps get by this web page creator concerning trophies. Not only keep up the good work, but can we get video clip | |
| Comment #34 by Mygirlfriends Saturday, August 30, 2008 @ 01:24:59 AM I would do anything to Naruto: Ultimate Ninja Storm receive trophies!!!! | |
| Comment #35 by wonderlandinc Saturday, August 30, 2008 @ 05:53:05 AM I Prey To The Bethesda Gods They Have Trophies For Fallout 3, And From What I Have Seen With The New Demo Clips The Achievements Are There & It Does Not Seem To Hard To Tweak It A Little And Give Us Trophies. However, PC & 360 Are Getting DLC And PS3 Is Not (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/39183.html) So Maybe Trophies Will Not Be On The List Ether. | |
| Comment #36 by westhamfan89 Sunday, August 31, 2008 @ 10:14:45 AM does anyone know if fifa 09 is getting trophies ???? | |
| Comment #37 by GreekoSM Monday, September 01, 2008 @ 09:36:11 PM yeh thats what i'm wondering, what about fifa 09 and pro 09????????? | |
| Comment #38 by westhamfan89 Monday, September 01, 2008 @ 11:51:13 PM na not pro lol worst game ever hopefully fifa will have em then i would definitely have a platinum trophy i was on fifa 08 for 4 months non stop still have 1 of the best online records in the world | |
| Comment #39 by ngtmrcld Tuesday, September 02, 2008 @ 01:32:43 AM Has there bean any mention of guitar hero world tour supporting trophies as well? | |
| Comment #40 by wonderlandinc Tuesday, September 02, 2008 @ 03:17:28 AM I Know Rock Band II Is Going To Have Trophies, So I Bet They Throw Some In The New Guitar Hero To Help Put That Game Over The Top. | |
| Comment #41 by GreekoSM Tuesday, September 02, 2008 @ 08:31:56 AM WHAT ABOUT FIFA????????????????? | |
| Comment #42 by westhamfan89 Tuesday, September 02, 2008 @ 10:46:06 AM dont know m8 nothing has been released to the media if there is no trophies on release hopefully there will be a patch released | |
| Comment #43 by GreekoSM Tuesday, September 02, 2008 @ 04:54:36 PM I hope so, otherwise i might just have to purchase it for the 360, better online community and achievements. sony need to sort it out, make trophies mandatory! | |
| Comment #44 by westhamfan89 Tuesday, September 02, 2008 @ 05:19:39 PM 360 aint gt a better community there bringing out new avatars 2 compete with home plus fifa on ps3 is getting a exclusive game mode not available to 360 | |
| Comment #45 by ngtmrcld Wednesday, September 03, 2008 @ 02:14:47 AM i don't care about avatars. I just want the playstation home now. | |
| Comment #46 by GreekoSM Wednesday, September 03, 2008 @ 12:34:39 PM Well i disagree, i think the 360's online experience is alot better, the online games i play on the ps3 are pretty poor, no really chats. i hope home will change all this. | |
| Comment #47 by westhamfan89 Wednesday, September 03, 2008 @ 03:25:36 PM but u say that i think ps3 graphics are better alot cheaper 2 play as its all built in better players online | |
| Comment #48 by GreekoSM Wednesday, September 03, 2008 @ 04:50:57 PM Yeh the ps3 has crisper graphics and the fact that it has built in wireless and blu ray makes it a much better console but i just haven't had the same enjoyment playing it online. | |
| Comment #49 by ngtmrcld Wednesday, September 03, 2008 @ 05:03:52 PM i am liking the ps3 better than the 360. now the good games are starting to roll out soon so I am excited. Now I am excited for the new PAIN update that is supposed to be released tomorrow with the trophies this time. | |
| Comment #50 by westhamfan89 Wednesday, September 03, 2008 @ 05:56:13 PM oh its 2mz lol do we have to pay btw ps3 is my first online console plus i dont have to pay 40 pound a year in the long term people say xbox is cheaper but with membership its much more expensive | |
| Comment #51 by ngtmrcld Wednesday, September 03, 2008 @ 06:28:30 PM yeppers. I have pretty much stopped playing online with my 360 and I do not plan on renewing the gold service once it expires. Most of the games I play are on both consoles and well the PS3 is free and with home just around the corner you will also receive extra bonuses for specific games. | |
| Comment #52 by westhamfan89 Wednesday, September 03, 2008 @ 06:39:55 PM yea lol see someone agrees with me xbox is a rip off plus playstation dont get the rrod | |
| Comment #53 by ngtmrcld Wednesday, September 03, 2008 @ 06:58:25 PM hahaha it's soooooo true, but the ps3 does receive another type of error like the rrod | |
| Comment #54 by westhamfan89 Wednesday, September 03, 2008 @ 08:14:46 PM wat error do you get? | |
| Comment #55 by ngtmrcld Wednesday, September 03, 2008 @ 10:34:59 PM i never got the error. someone i know had a constant orange light on his ps3. | |
| Comment #56 by westhamfan89 Wednesday, September 03, 2008 @ 11:14:40 PM did he have to send it away 4 repair | |
| Comment #57 by ngtmrcld Thursday, September 04, 2008 @ 02:15:51 AM yup. cost him $150 US to get it fixed. | |
| Comment #58 by westhamfan89 Thursday, September 04, 2008 @ 09:08:48 AM wow quite a bit then | |
| Comment #59 by GreekoSM Thursday, September 04, 2008 @ 01:29:36 PM man im not trying to slag off the ps3, i own both consoles and wouldn't have it any other way, but i could never stop playing my 360, not unless they brought gears of war out on the ps3 aswell, lol. | |
| Comment #60 by ngtmrcld Thursday, September 04, 2008 @ 01:39:08 PM I still play both, but right now there isn't anything making me really want to play it. One guitar hero world tour comes out I will play more since I have all the downloaded tunes on the 360. | |
| Comment #61 by westhamfan89 Thursday, September 04, 2008 @ 01:42:16 PM lol i dnt want a 360 most of my m8's av 1 and that would be the only reason 2 get 1 i wouldn't get any games as ps3 has better graphics | |
| Comment #62 by ngtmrcld Thursday, September 04, 2008 @ 03:54:53 PM well the ps3 games are now starting to look better whereas before the games were looking better on 360. I am waiting to get my hands on bioshock as I have read that the ps3 version looks and play better than the 360 version. | |
| Comment #63 by westhamfan89 Thursday, September 04, 2008 @ 05:27:29 PM it will look better and most probably play better as the producers can look and assess the mistakes they made and improve them for a higher class of gamers =D | |
| Comment #64 by GreekoSM Thursday, September 04, 2008 @ 07:25:02 PM So where do you stand in terms of what system to buy fall out 3 on, knowing that the ps3 version will not support trophies? i really dont undertand why they dont make trophies mandatory, its obviously going to increase sales so it makes sense to really. | |
| Comment #65 by ngtmrcld Thursday, September 04, 2008 @ 07:49:09 PM I read an article somewhere that as of Q1 or Q2 or 2009 all ps3 games will have to have trophy support. I don't know if this will happen. | |
| Comment #66 by westhamfan89 Thursday, September 04, 2008 @ 11:22:11 PM hopefully Q1 as i can get platinum on fifa 09 demo september 11th cnt wait for it hopefully its sorted 4 every game to have trophies asap because i have games im great at especially fifa 08 cod4 etc. i know they wont have trophies as new games are being released but i dont understand why the games coming soon only have some trophies with xbox there are achievements for every game why not put trophies on the games aswell it requires no effort as there putting them on multi platform consoles anyone agree | |
| Comment #67 by ngtmrcld Friday, September 05, 2008 @ 02:34:25 AM I just say that it's the developers becomming lazy and will not do anything. heck they can use the same requirements for both trophies and achievements, but i would like it better if both of them are different. There are games that I am good at as well and I hope that they receive the trophy support. I am really hoping that they have trophies for guitar hero world tour | |
| Comment #68 by westhamfan89 Friday, September 05, 2008 @ 09:45:25 AM exactly the multi platform games will have the same requirements for both ps3 and xbox so why cant they add trophies in | |
| Comment #69 by ngtmrcld Sunday, September 07, 2008 @ 02:28:29 PM well it's been somewhat confirmed that bioshock will have all the DLC incorporated into the game and the trophies are more or less the same requirements as the achievements for the 360 but they said that some trophies that will be different than the 360 achievements. | |
| Comment #70 by SneezeGuard Thursday, September 11, 2008 @ 01:33:20 PM pain trophy update is live: good stuff | |
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