Gold Star Cutoffs

[meister]

Has anyone else noticed songs with solos in them are way too hard to get gold stars now? I just FC'ed up to the solo in Free Bird, and got 99% in the solo, missing 3 or 4 times, didn't miss any overdrive, and it still wasn't enough to get gold stars. I saw I got 5 stars at about 252,000. I scored about 421,500

[LoAlexandria]

Originally Posted by meister

Has anyone else noticed songs with solos in them are way too hard to get gold stars now? I just FC'ed up to the solo in Free Bird, and got 99% in the solo, missing 3 or 4 times, didn't miss any overdrive, and it still wasn't enough to get gold stars. I saw I got 5 stars at about 252,000. I scored about 421,500

its not just guitar

easy songs: easy goldstars (i allready goldstarred 3 songs on pro keys ; i got keys yesterday; obv just easy Songs like Whip it)

but i noticed that on Vox (my preferred instrument) - seems the tougher a song rated, the tougher the goldstar cut.

[Blood_Runs_Cold]

True, plus did you notice that it's even easier to gold star? Now you can get half overdrive for only 1 section instead of two. I don't know if they factored this in to the scores, but I did notice a lot of songs that I would barely goldstar on RB 2, getting it with about a minute left in the song.

As for Free bird, some songs are just bullshit.
I still remember a song on Beatles that I would 100% on Guitar AND Bass, and never Gold Star. Sometimes the cutoffs are almost impossible.

[Leandrinh]

Can't tell if the solos has impact on gold stars, but certainly it's much easier to get them now. I don't know if they abandoned the idea of having more than 4x as average multiplier to get gold stars, or if the boosted overdrive (getting half of it sometimes) helps reaching the 4+x multi, even with more mistakes.

Also, can anyone tell me what are some blue paths that appears on some of the solos? I didn't understand them, what they mean, and I saw them 2 or 3 times only (unfortunately I can't remember in which the songs). I just played the notes on them, but there has to be something more about them.

And I agree, Beatles had some impossible songs to gold star on guitar/bass. I remember scoring 100% on some songs and had to do them over and over until find the correct spot to launch the overdrive (and some songs it's not even enough...).

[Razorhoof78]

Originally Posted by Leandrinh

Also, can anyone tell me what are some blue paths that appears on some of the solos?

Are you talking about the blue on the side of the highway? That means it's a solo section - on RB gtrs you can use the solo buttons without strumming. In previous titles, the highway itself turned blue for these sections but since a 4x multiplier does this now, they moved it off to the sides.

[Leandrinh]

No, not that blue on the sides. This path that i'm talking about highlights some of the notes, inside the solo section. In my experiences it highlighted the blue and orange ones, for about 10-20 notes. If it appear to me again I'll try to take a pic and post it here.

Also, for any unknown reason, when in solo the game is not showing me my % progress, which it did before (and in past titles)... Checked the options, there's nothing to re-turn it on...

[kdrcraig]

Originally Posted by Blood_Runs_Cold

True, plus did you notice that it's even easier to gold star? Now you can get half overdrive for only 1 section instead of two. I don't know if they factored this in to the scores, but I did notice a lot of songs that I would barely goldstar on RB 2, getting it with about a minute left in the song.

I've definitely noticed it's easier to gold star RB 2 songs. Quite a few times I missed a good number of notes in some of those songs and would still gold star them with plenty of time left.

[Oblivion Drift]

Originally Posted by Leandrinh

No, not that blue on the sides. This path that i'm talking about highlights some of the notes, inside the solo section. In my experiences it highlighted the blue and orange ones, for about 10-20 notes. If it appear to me again I'll try to take a pic and post it here.

Also, for any unknown reason, when in solo the game is not showing me my % progress, which it did before (and in past titles)... Checked the options, there's nothing to re-turn it on...

I believe that's for trills, I've seen them in a few songs. The intro to Crazy Train for one. I'm not sure what the usage of the framing the notes (the blue path) is for - is there something we are supposed/or able to do here?

I generally find it distracting more than anything, causing me to miss notes unless I'm expecting it.

[silverwolf40]

Originally Posted by Oblivion Drift

I believe that's for trills, I've seen them in a few songs. The intro to Crazy Train for one. I'm not sure what the usage of the framing the notes (the blue path) is for - is there something we are supposed/or able to do here?

I generally find it distracting more than anything, causing me to miss notes unless I'm expecting it.

on those you dont hafta strum or hit all of the notes. as long as you are in time with the music you will get credit for the notes. Same thing with drum fills. They have the notes there as a guide as to what you should be playing but you do not hafta do them that fast. Also you can tap the notes on the larger buttons. No need to strum or go down to the bottom frets. Done this myself. It's a nice addition to those songs that have trill on the last two buttons. My pinky just isn't that fast sometimes.

As for the Gold Stars. I got used to counting points in the previous rock bands. Ex: i saw that I had 50k points when I got five stars i knew I had to get at least 75 for the Gold. (Generally it's 1.5 times the 5 star score). I have not seen any change in that rule. Everytime I have hit my predicted score range I have gotten five stars. Applying this rule to OP:

You said about 250k on the 5 star score. that means you would need an additional 125k to get Gold. So you were well over my "predicted" score of 375k. Perhaps the boost in overdrive has changed some songs Gold Star ruling then. In my experience though I have had no exceptions to this rule.

[squodge]

I've had no problems getting gold stars in a few Nightmare or Impossible songs, and I think it's just experience that's made me a better player rather than the game being easier than RB2 or other incarnations of RB.

I've actually found that the difficulties suggested by the game aren't in line with my ability. I've gold starred a few impossible songs, yet other songs at 0 or 1 difficulty have made me struggle to get 5 stars, never mind the gold stars. Some ratings are just plain wrong, like "The Look" on bass which is apparently demonic difficulty, but I gold starred this on my second attempt. Yet "Need You Tonight", which is considered a warm-up song, I had to play it several times to get 5 stars on expert guitar.

I'm looking forward to the keys... coming out in a couple of weeks. It sucks that I have to wait a while for the Stratocaster; and also getting 2 competent singers to help me with Bohemian Rhapsody *sigh*.