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Old 04-08-2012, 06:20 PM   #1 (permalink)
 
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Default My Master Ninja Rank Guide for Very Hard

late update: most of this works on master ninja difficulty too,and actually it's even easier,you need less points than on very hard,for example 350-360k for chapter 1 is enough on mn comapred to 400k for very hard

ok let's start right away

rank is solely based on the karma score at the end of the chapter,you can get 100k bonuses for time,enemies killed and unused ninpo but they are not a requirement as long as you can make up for the missing points; for example a successful lvl2 UT is worth 5k points,do 20 of these and you have 100k,making up for the 100k you might lose when not making the time limit

but it's not that simple,first,whenever you load your game,press start and then square to show your karma,when you encounter a group of enemies a timer starts,often only a few seconds,if you manage to kill all enemies in time you get a bonus of 10k (so 10 successful encounters are worth 100k),during these time limits you also get points for ultimate techniques (UTs) by pressing and holding triangle,lvl1 is worth 2k,lvl2 is worth 5k,if the time limit is up you won't get any more points for UTs! and you always have only one try,if you return to the room the enemies might have respawned but the timer won't start again, so save often and reload if you think you screwed up 2 or 3 battles in a row (you do want the 10k time bonus as often as possible!).

killed enemies are worth 1.000 each (again,only during the first encounter!) even after the time limit is up,so keep killing . yes ghost fish are worth 1.000 each which renders the last few chapters very easy since there are hundreds of them.

fiend challenges are optional,you can make enough kills and karma without them,though often it's easier just to do them because it will be almost guaranteed to get the best rank,on very hard each challenge will throw 100 enemies at you,making worth an additional 100k karma,not counting any Uts (speaking of which,only the first 50 UTs will be counted in a challenge,after that you still can spam them but you won't be awarded with karma for them,so 50x 5k is the best you can get)

all killed bosses (except murai in chapter 1,because you don't kill him) give a bonus of 100k too,so at the end of most chapters you get a total bonus of 400k automatically,keep that in mind when looking at my "karma after chapter" scores.

it goes without saying that your ninpo slots are always full when finishing a chapter (on very hard 1 devil's elixir costs 4000 at muramasa's,you MUST use ninpo to make some of the time limits but use them wisely and make sure you can refill before ending a chapter,red essence never drops when you need them but some enemies tend to drop them more often,for example when slicing off the tentacles of hydracubus. 1 red essence is worth 4000 yellow essence,think of that before absorbing it for an UT)

these are my times,kills and karma scores,they are not the minimum requirement for the rank,so maybe you can be a few hundred k off and still get the rank,let me know your lowest successfull score and i will then update it

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Old 04-08-2012, 06:21 PM   #2 (permalink)
 
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chapter: 1
completed in time for 100k bonus: yes,under 15 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,75
karma after chapter: 420k (400k should be enough)
total karma: 420k
difficulty to get rank: very hard,took me several days
notes: one of the hardest chapters to get master ninja rank,you need at least 140-150k karma before you reach the savepoint,at least 190k before facing murai,AND you must get both time and kill bonuses of 100k each to get you over 400k,which means you MUST play risky,often you only have 5-10 seconds to kill off 2-3 enemies but you MUST make it in time because you NEED the 10k bonus,there are very few encounters were you can try for UTs,which again is risky because all the rooms are so small and you are dead with 2-3 hits

chapter: 2
completed in time for 100k bonus: no,22 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,66 with doku killed
karma after chapter: 650k
total karma: 1.070.000
difficulty to get rank: easy
notes: i made it in 18 minutes while letting doku beat me,i got the 100k for making the time limit but i only had 65 enemies killed and only got head ninja rank,i then beat doku,missing the time limit but got 100k for killing enough enemies and another 100k for beating doku,giving me master ninja rank. i totally screwed up the horseman fight,wasting all my small elixirs,since you don't really need any in the next level just use them here if you need to

chapter: 3
completed in time for 100k bonus: no,24 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,160+
karma after chapter: 750k
total karma: 1.830.000
difficulty to get rank: ultra easy,i made it through the entire level without using an elixir
notes: just make sure to complete the fiend challenge,azura dragon helm + sun armlet + upgraded dragon sword = flying swallowing everything in 1 hit,spam on-land Uts when possible

chapter: 4
completed in time for 100k bonus: yes,under 14 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,51
karma after chapter: 480k (450k could be enough)
total karma: 2.310.000
difficulty to get rank: normal,got it on my second try
notes: on my first try i only had 430k which wasn't enough,you should have at least 65k when reaching the save point,i saved my game 4 times during the mission and still made it in 13 minutes

chapter: 5 (rachel)
completed in time for 100k bonus: yes,under 19 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,150+
karma after chapter: 591k
total karma: 591k (rachel)
difficulty to get rank: ultra easy
notes: i made over 300k karma in the fiend challenge alone by spamming UTs

chapter: 6
completed in time for 100k bonus: yes,under 19 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,62
karma after chapter: 670k (650k could be enough)
total karma: 2.980.000
difficulty to get rank: ultra hard
notes: this whole chapter pretty much requires perfection from start to finish,on my first run i only had 580k,on my second run 630k and it still wasn't enough. on top of that there are not enough encounters to get the required kill count,you have to go out of your way and grind a few extra kills without getting points for it. get as many UTs on biker encounters as possible. (3-4,or reload!) try to not lose your talisman on the bosses

chapter: 7
completed in time for 100k bonus: yes,under 49 minutes (i think you actually have over 60 minutes,so you can farm essence a few minutes and still make it in time)
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,260+ (without the fiend challenge!)
karma after chapter: 1.000k (1 million!)
total karma: 3.980.000
difficulty to get rank: normal,had to complete the catacomb part with the zombies 3 times though
notes: whoa,that one needs a lot of karma. i know that it needs to be exactly 1.000.000 because i had 994.000 before,missing the rank i then did 2 more UTs during the bone dragon fight on the wasps (flying swallowing one,then switch to lunar and UT the other) and got it. it IS possible to get the rank without doing the fiend challenge,and trust me,you don't want to deal with 100 catwomen and scythe demons,at least not now,you can still do the challenge in chapter 9 before you fight alma,you will have alot more health and maxed out weapons,so if you beat alma and don't get the rank,reload and do the challenge before facing her. i had only 71k when entering the catacombs,139k before awakening the zombies, and then 572k before the bone dragon,meaning i made 433k simply by UTing the zombies with the lunar. unlike bats, the blue souls count as enemies. do not waste your talisman on the clone or the boss. after getting the book of eons DO NOT enter the archive again.

glitch for easy ryu clone: run up the balcony where the scarab is,equip the lunar and attack whenever he jumps against the wall,it's fool proof.

chapter: 8 (rachel)
completed in time for 100k bonus: yes,under 29 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,150
karma after chapter: 795k
total karma: 1.386.000 (rachel)
difficulty to get rank: ultra easy
notes: buy the accessory for faster UT charging (if you haven't in chapter 5 already) and go for the fiend challenge,when it was over i had 99.999 essence,lol. just roll-jump > on-land UT, roll-jump > on-land UT until everything is dead (which will still take 15-20 minutes!) and collect the big yellow essence of the ogres,if killed with a lvl2 UT it will be worth 4000 essence! buy what ever you want from muramasa and kick poor gamov's ass. if you beat the 3 ogres after the bridge you get rachel's ninpo,which will get you another free 100k at the end of the chapter.

chapter: 9
completed in time for 100k bonus: yes,under 47 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: 280+
karma after chapter: 1.071k (1 million...again *sigh*)
total karma: 5.051.000
difficulty to get rank: easy (if you haven't done the challenge in chapter 7)
notes: yep,1 million again,had 860k first,not enough,did a few UTs in the archive challenge to get over 900k...still not enough XD there are actually 2 fiend challenges possible in this chapter,i highly recommend to NOT do the altar room (and the room before) against the zombies and save it for chapter 10 though. like in the last chapter,spam lunar UTs on the zombies as often as possible, on the save point before the bridge (which normally collapses, read: do not enter the bridge,jump down right away,you need to return to the savepoint later) i only had 19k,after hydracubus 340k. now after hydracubus when you get back up,do NOT follow the path to the next savepoint,instead walk back over the bridge to the last savepoint,the reason for this is as soon as you reach the next savepoint,the timer for the next encounter will start,if you save,screw up and reload the timer won't show up again,making you lose well over 100k for the encounter. after said encounter i had 450k and after the archive challenge 660k, which would have been enough even if i had missed the chapter time limit (1 second over and you already only get 50k instead of 100k). it should still be easy manageable

glitches for easy archive challenge: enter from the top floor (the cats can't reach you here),equip the lunar,walk to the wall you broke to make the challenge start,run back to the door,hold block,wait for the scythe demon to hit the block (don't evade it!),dash,jump,triangle,then finish him with triangle when he is lying on the ground. now quickly look/roll to the door while still blocking,if he drops blue or red essence,absorb it for an UT and wait till the next enemy spawns above you,UT him. it's important to look in the direction of the door or else you won't hit him. that's why it's hard to chain UTs here,don't get greedy and only go for an UT after you finished an enemy with triangle on the ground and looking at the door. there are 34 of these demons,if you were fast you should have around 1 minute left to get some UTs on the cats. now there is another neat glitch in this room,for whatever reason the cats can't attack you in the cage on the 2nd floor, just spam UTs next to the stairs and hide in the cage if you need to,once they jumped back down get back to the stairs and charge UTs again. congratulations,you just completed the hardest fiend challenge on this difficulty without using an elixir :P

chapter: 10
completed in time for 100k bonus: no,31 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,190
karma after chapter: 723k
total karma: 5.774.000
difficulty to get rank: ultra easy
notes: after the zombie challenge you should have more than enough karma to get the rank even if you skip all other fights and miss the time limit in this chapter. the wooden sword should be maxed out by now too. don't forget the dabilahro hidden next to muramasa's shop on the great bridge and the free talisman after the boss.

chapter: 11
completed in time for 100k bonus: yes,under 24 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,80
karma after chapter: 914k
total karma: 6.688.000
difficulty to get rank: easy
notes: looks much,but is pretty easy,you should get around 280-300k in the tank battle if you beat them quickly,and another 120-130k for the chopper. i screwed up most other fights with those damn soldiers that grab you mid-air when going for an on-land UT the command tower can be very frustrating if you approach it the wrong way,USE touch controls and just tap on the enemies as they pop out,ignore the satellite dishes until all are dead.
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Old 04-08-2012, 06:22 PM   #3 (permalink)
 
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chapter: 12
completed in time for 100k bonus: yes,under 50 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,372
karma after chapter: 1.513k
total karma: 8.201.000
difficulty to get rank: ultra easy
notes: 4 bosses worth 100k each,a few hundred ghost fish,and 2 possible fiend challenges; if you don't manage to get the rank on your first try,quit gaming :P i saved the fiend challenge against the bugs for chapter 16 because there is really no point in doing it now,you should have more money than you can spend and you only get a talisman of rebirth,which you probably can't pick up anyway. skip the 6 ogres at the end,they are not worth the trouble. after the chapter ends and chapter 13 starts DO NOT SAVE,quickly kill the fish in the water first with your bow,then save.

chapter: 13
completed in time for 100k bonus: yes,under 22 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,68
karma after chapter: 578k
total karma: 8.779.000
difficulty to get rank: ultra easy
notes: use the bow to kill the fish and not the harpoon and you should easily make all but 1-2 of the encounters in time. don't forget the encounter in the safe room in the monastery.

chapter: 14 (rachel)
completed in time for 100k bonus: yes,under 18 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,153
karma after chapter: 776k
total karma: 2.162.000 (rachel)
difficulty to get rank: ultra easy
notes: fiend challenge + on-land UT is all you need

chapter: 15
completed in time for 100k bonus: yes,under 32 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,212
karma after chapter: 1.576k
total karma: 10.355.000
difficulty to get rank: ultra easy
notes: i got over 700k for the worm boss and that wasn't even fast,the unlabored flawlessness can kill all bosses easily here in mere seconds if you are on low health,which will get you huge time bonuses. i skipped almost all ogre encounters and still got the rank,i also saved the fiend challenge in the stadium for chapter 18 (but this also means you can't return here to collect the scarabs and items for now,do not trigger the challenge!). after beating smaugan (the dragon) collect the thousand gods and then return to the last savepoint,there will be a fiend challenge right at the start of the next chapter before you can save,if you screw up you might lose 100k+

chapter: 16
completed in time for 100k bonus: yes,under 34 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,327
karma after chapter: 834k (800k should be enough)
total karma: 11.189.000
difficulty to get rank: normal
notes: had 790k before and didn't get it,and this included the aquaduct challenge from chapter 12 already!so it should be pretty hard if you've done it earlier. i saved the great bridge challenge from this chapter for chapter 18,do it here if you just can't get the required score but it's easier with the dark dragon blade later

chapter: 17
completed in time for 100k bonus: yes,under 19 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,260
karma after chapter: 775k
total karma: 11.964.000
difficulty to get rank: easy
notes: mostly ghost fish in this level with generous time limits. i killed spirit doku once with ninpo not full,giving me only 40k instead of 100k and it still was enough for the rank,so it should be easy.


chapter: 18
completed in time for 100k bonus: no,63 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,879
karma after chapter: 1.420k
total karma: 13.384.000
difficulty to get rank: ultra easy
notes: 5 bosses and 2 possible fiend challenges (if not done before). if you don't want to complete the stadium challenge,just start with the dabilahro and get 50 UTs within the time limit,this should easily make 200k-250k,making it impossible to miss the rank in the end. then collect the scarabs and life of the gods. kill the first emperor form cheap and easy with only 5 inferno ninpo. (i used the ninpo enhancement)

chapter: 19 (total)
completed in time for 100k bonus: yes, 8:38h
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,3.887
karma after chapter: ~ 437k
total karma: 15.983.000 (ryu + rachel)
difficulty to get rank: no rank
notes: murai is so god damn slow and easy he will die within seconds. if you have enough devil elixiers left you can also cheaply spam inferno ninpo and take off the majority of his health without him doing anything.



overall difficulty to get master ninja rank on very hard : easy (like 3/10 easy). outside of 2-3 chapters i always got it on the first try.

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late update:

generally works on master ninja mode too,but since you have more time and need less points it's alot easier,because i was trained from very hard i got every single stage on the first try on mn rank

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hey nice guide i just like to ask if Legendary Hunter for rachel is equivalent for master ninja rank for ryu,coz i can't seem to get master ninja rank on chapter 5 (rachel) sorry for noob question and for my english.TIA.
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hey nice guide i just like to ask if Legendary Hunter for rachel is equivalent for master ninja rank for ryu,coz i can't seem to get master ninja rank on chapter 5 (rachel) sorry for noob question and for my english.TIA.
yes,legendary hunter is the highest rank for rachel
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wow thanks for the quick reply.God bless.

Update: good day i just like to ask about chapter 6 the total karma needed is 2,980,000 and i get 3.3+ million but i only get head ninja rank why is that?btw im playing on very hard mode on vita.TIA.

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chapter: 1
completed in time for 100k bonus: yes,under 15 minutes
enough enemies killed for 100k bonus: yes,75
karma after chapter: 420k (400k should be enough)
total karma: 420k
difficulty to get rank: very hard,took me several days
well... I think it's the most difficult part on the way of the Platinum, isn't it? I tried to earn the master ninja rank on master ninja difficulty during several days, and I'm so so far from a positive result. Most of the time I'm not even able to have the time bonus on the second (easy) fight, because one of the dumb red ninja fall into the hole or because of something else...It's just insane!

I finished the game on master ninja difficulty, it was not difficult. I finished all the challenge missions (not all in platinum yet)...but this first chapter master with a ninja rank?!?! Almost impossible from my point of view (except for a very few players maybe). I'm about to give up on the platinum trophy...
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well... I think it's the most difficult part on the way of the Platinum, isn't it? I tried to earn the master ninja rank on master ninja difficulty during several days, and I'm so so far from a positive result. Most of the time I'm not even able to have the time bonus on the second (easy) fight, because one of the dumb red ninja fall into the hole or because of something else...It's just insane!

I finished the game on master ninja difficulty, it was not difficult. I finished all the challenge missions (not all in platinum yet)...but this first chapter master with a ninja rank?!?! Almost impossible from my point of view (except for a very few players maybe). I'm about to give up on the platinum trophy...
Have you equipped the NG3 costume and the azure dragon hamlet?
l got the master ninja rank with the karma score of 36xxxx.
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Have you equipped the NG3 costume and the azure dragon hamlet?
l got the master ninja rank with the karma score of 36xxxx.
yes, I use them... 36xxxx? It's less than I thought... You gave me a little hope...
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pfffiou, I've done it, I mean the first chapter on master ninja rank. It was so tough I thought I would not be able to do it. Took me several days, doing only this chapter again and again... I finally did it with 373000...


I won't play this first chapter of NINJA GAIDEN SIGMA ever again
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