FIFA v PES

Rambo313 · 09-11-2009, 05:18 PM

Ive been searching about this topic, but dont think theres a thread about this,

Fifa(26)
Rockets88
Woody
Goldie93
Dagger471
lucas77
Scorpkahn
ruben-fcu
SimplySupreme
kieran
brucemendes
Lemegeton300
Jarrad25
Justtinho
TiggX
Mexican_Tiger
alx681
Lethal-Hjorth
dario0807
muffdive79
dazg
Saetre
icedude34
platinum
Savenger
MUFC-17
fanboy

PES(23)
Rambo313
Lee_
Atreyu0608
SimplySupreme
jvella7
ruben-fcu
duck360
hshirako
sunnygrg
funkyweed
flechette
christhedog3
manga13
darweezee
Irish-hero95
Zerp2008
AlexKidd
arsenal4life
dw1986
darbo92
ManUtd127
Hitchcocker
bigboy12382

Looks like FIFA it winning by 3!

Anyway, what game do u think is better and why?
I think PES, i've liked this game since 04 came out, its has excellent gameplay, players run faster, shooting is brill, great graphics, espically the champions league, be a pro and, master league, man i used to buy tuns of players on master league, Lol, i also kinda like Fifa aswell tho

Updated:

This is some quick notes from PSM3:

PSM3 caught up with Shingo 'Seabass' Tanaka at GamesCom to ask him the questions you submitted on this very blog about a month ago. Here's what he had to say. It's a must-read for any PES fan, as Seabass talks about improvements, motion-control and the things PES does better than FIFA. Want more? Check out PSM3 issue 119 (on sale 30 September) where we exclusively review PES 2010, and review FIFA 10 in the same magazine.

PSM3: What was the motivation for officially involving the community/fans this time, compared to previous years?

Seabass: It's been our 3rd year now on PS3. We are a little bit more stable now so we thought it was perfect timing to open our ears and listen to our fans finally. We have been in quite a crisis over the last couple of years because we were so busy internally but now we are a little bit more relaxed and with more time on our hands, it was time to listen to the people that matter, the fans. However it;s very important that this is not a one-off and that we continue to do this.

PES 2010 - the best PES yet?
PSM3: Which do you think of as more important: listening to the fan feedback, or hitting your own specific goals?

Seabass: Well actually that's a very good question. The team creates the core first. We set out to make it a simulation style game for the people of Europe to enjoy and that is our duty as a team. Every time we create the game, in the past we would just do the actions of the players and then we build up from there using the actions that we have created, but this year we have done it a little differently where we first set a goal and then work with our fans through feedback and opinions.

PSM3: Have you and your team ever thought that a PES title every year is too much on next-gen and that by having a game every 2 years, you and your team could address certain issues that need addressing and in turn, you would have more time to work on these issues?

Seabass: Yes you're right especially since we have gone into the next-gen console market. We have loads of things we want to do and ideally bringing out a game every 2 years is something that would help us. However we believe that one game per year is the best option as that's something the fans want to see and with the innovation that we have achieved just with PES 2010 alone, I cant see us as a team not making a game every year.

PSM3: Do you have any plans to expand the managerial options within PES? As a lot of fans want to see this happen.

Seabass: In PES 2010 we improved the strategy side of things, which include the 'sliders' and the 'card system' and I think this is a nice first step in making bigger strides into the management arena. For the first time, the management mode has enough depth that you can change the type of style you want your team to play, and also your player's individual style as well. Of course this is just a small step towards what we want to achieve. There have been some collisions between the manager options and the actual gameplay during development. However with both the sliders and the card system in place, we eventually managed to get a perfect mix of the two. This is just the start of what's to come for this mode as we have big plans for the future.

PSM3: Many fans have been talking about this for a while, do you think that we will see a Master League implemented into PES online?

Seabass: Yes, we have been thinking about this for a very long time actually but unfortunately it isn't in PES 2010. We have added the Champions League online for PES 2010 and we have also expanded the community mode online, as we know that this is something the fans wanted. We are still exploring the online side but a Master League Online is definitely something we would like to include in future versions of PES.

PSM3: Are there any plans to bulk-up the way set-pieces happen?

Seabass: Yes. We think that set-pieces play a very important part in games, in the same way management does. We have plans to do this and its one of the things that is top of our list and something that a lot of fans want to see happen. Of course the other tactical aspects will improve the game but this is for sure, something we want to improve.

PSM3: What part of the development of PES 2010, did you find the most challenging?

Seabass: Well the most difficult part, I would say, is that we didn't want to take away the attacking experience but at the same time, we wanted to change the balance so that the matches don't turn out 4-4 or 5-5 like they have done in previous games. It was very difficult to get the balance just right but I feel we have. Also another was balancing the superstar players. We had to work out how players would be able to stop stars like Messi or Christano Ronaldo. The answer was that, through the sliders and cards, we built in options for more strategic defences that can make sure that players of this quality can be stopped. I would say that this is the main thing that was challenging for me and my team as we needed to get the balance just right.

PSM3: What is it that you think that will separate PES 2010 and FIFA 10 this year?

Seabass: I went down to the EA booth and played FIFA 10 and it's a good game. However, if you look at the defending for example, there were a lot of instances where the ball carrier ended up one-on-one with the defender and this is something that does not work well with the way real football is played. Our goal this year with PES 2010 was to make the defending side of things actually feel like the defenders are keeping their shape and working as a team. In PES 2010 we have gone for the 'Zone defending' style so its not one to one if you defend or attack. When you are defending you don't always have to attack the ball carrier and its sometimes better to delay the ball carrier as much as possible so that your midfield players can get the tackles in and we feel this is a more realistic approach

PSM3: With the Wii version of PES being a success using motion-sensing technology, and with the likes of both Sony and Microsoft developing motion-controlled hardware, do you think that this could be used in a future iteration of PES?

Seabass: Yes we have thought about it and we were thinking about how we could implement it into a future version of PES. The good thing about football is that you can use this technology to create some great teamwork within the game and it unlocks an added dimension to movement. Motion controlled technology is a very interesting thing indeed. At the moment though, I'm just experimenting with the technology and it's at a very, very early stage. So at the moment, there is no definite answer to whether I will use this technology for PES in the future.

That's your lot - hope you enjoyed it.

Reader request! Now you've had some PES love from us, it's time to give a little back. We want to know what you think of both the PES 2010 and FIFA 10 demos that went up on PSN recently. How do they compare? Is one clearly better than the other? Are you thinking of changing camps this year? Tell us now.

Finally, apologies for the lack of blogs. We've just come off the deadline from hell. To make it up to you we've made a radical change to the mag that EVERYONE will enjoy and benefit from. Really. We teased it on the Forums a couple of weeks ago, and it has come to fruition. What is it? You'll find out on 30 September...

'Til the next time, have a great weekend,

PSM3

Rockets88 · 09-11-2009, 05:21 PM

Im sure there has been atleast one or more threads like this

Im a fifa guy. PES looks like it still belongs on an old gen console with its poor graphics and gameplay.

Lee_ · 09-11-2009, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockets88

Im sure there has been atleast one or more threads like this

Im a fifa guy. PES looks like it still belongs on an old gen console with its poor graphics and gameplay.

I prefer PES's game play to Fifa.
The only thing Fifa has over Pro-Evo is that Fifa is fully licensed.
Don't know how you can say PES looks like it belongs on an Older Gen console.. I think that graphicaly, it looks better than Fifa.

YouTube - Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 gameplay

Pro Evolution 2010 gameplay.

YouTube - FIFA 10 GAMEPLAY VIDEO GamesCom 2009 [HD]

Fifa 10 gameplay.

Rockets88 · 09-11-2009, 05:37 PM

lmao the way henry runs.

And look at how bad the winger actually crosses the ball, it doesn't even looked like he kicked it. And the way henry shoots is laughable.

Woody · 09-11-2009, 05:49 PM

I've always been a Fifa man and last year PES was awful.

Goldie93 · 09-11-2009, 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockets88

Im a fifa guy. PES looks like it still belongs on an old gen console with its poor graphics and gameplay.

IMO your exactly right

Atreyu0608 · 09-11-2009, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rambo313

I think PES, i've liked this game since 04 came out, its has excellent gameplay, players run faster, shooting is brill, espically the champions league, be a pro and, master league, man i used to buy tuns of players on master league, Lol

So true....I bought my first Fifa-game since Ps1 with the 09 edition....just because it had trophies...still didn't like it, and didn't complete it....will never change my favorite soccergame. Pes forever.
I wonder if one of the games put easy trophies in just to get their sales up, a nice way to boost sales

Rambo313 · 09-11-2009, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee_

I prefer PES's game play to Fifa.
The only thing Fifa has over Pro-Evo is that Fifa is fully licensed.
Don't know how you can say PES looks like it belongs on an Older Gen console.. I think that graphicaly, it looks better than Fifa.

YouTube - Pro Evolution Soccer 2010 gameplay
Pro Evolution 2010 gameplay.

YouTube - FIFA 10 GAMEPLAY VIDEO GamesCom 2009 [HD]
Fifa 10 gameplay.

Yh man, i agree with u, the graphics is awesome,

Rockets88 · 09-11-2009, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atreyu0608

So true....I bought my first Fifa-game since Ps1 with the 09 edition....just because it had trophies...still didn't like it, and didn't complete it....will never change my favorite soccergame. Pes forever.
I wonder if one of the games put easy trophies in just to get their sales up, a nice way to boost sales

Worst example ever i feel. You basically said you bought this for the trophies, buying games just for trophies will generally mean you aren't buying it for fun & may naturally hate the game.. I played fifa for fun before and after the trophy patch & still enjoy it to this day.

I couldn't even finish half time on the PES demo it was so bad.

Rambo313 · 09-11-2009, 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woody

I've always been a Fifa man and last year PES was awful.

Well, lasts year PES was quite rubbish, but i liked it, i always play online or against my friends, even if it doesnt have any troophies, i still play it

09-11-2009, 05:18 PM	#1 (permalink)
Rambo313 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,777 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 3 (more» ...) View My PS3T Profile	FIFA v PES Ive been searching about this topic, but dont think theres a thread about this, Fifa(26) Rockets88 Woody Goldie93 Dagger471 lucas77 Scorpkahn ruben-fcu SimplySupreme kieran brucemendes Lemegeton300 Jarrad25 Justtinho TiggX Mexican_Tiger alx681 Lethal-Hjorth dario0807 muffdive79 dazg Saetre icedude34 platinum Savenger MUFC-17 fanboy PES(23) Rambo313 Lee_ Atreyu0608 SimplySupreme jvella7 ruben-fcu duck360 hshirako sunnygrg funkyweed flechette christhedog3 manga13 darweezee Irish-hero95 Zerp2008 AlexKidd arsenal4life dw1986 darbo92 ManUtd127 Hitchcocker bigboy12382 Looks like FIFA it winning by 3! Anyway, what game do u think is better and why? I think PES, i've liked this game since 04 came out, its has excellent gameplay, players run faster, shooting is brill, great graphics, espically the champions league, be a pro and, master league, man i used to buy tuns of players on master league, Lol, i also kinda like Fifa aswell tho *Updated:* This is some quick notes from PSM3: PSM3 caught up with Shingo 'Seabass' Tanaka at GamesCom to ask him the questions you submitted on this very blog about a month ago. Here's what he had to say. It's a must-read for any PES fan, as Seabass talks about improvements, motion-control and the things PES does better than FIFA. Want more? Check out PSM3 issue 119 (on sale 30 September) where we exclusively review PES 2010, and review FIFA 10 in the same magazine. PSM3: What was the motivation for officially involving the community/fans this time, compared to previous years? Seabass: It's been our 3rd year now on PS3. We are a little bit more stable now so we thought it was perfect timing to open our ears and listen to our fans finally. We have been in quite a crisis over the last couple of years because we were so busy internally but now we are a little bit more relaxed and with more time on our hands, it was time to listen to the people that matter, the fans. However it;s very important that this is not a one-off and that we continue to do this. PES 2010 - the best PES yet? PSM3: Which do you think of as more important: listening to the fan feedback, or hitting your own specific goals? Seabass: Well actually that's a very good question. The team creates the core first. We set out to make it a simulation style game for the people of Europe to enjoy and that is our duty as a team. Every time we create the game, in the past we would just do the actions of the players and then we build up from there using the actions that we have created, but this year we have done it a little differently where we first set a goal and then work with our fans through feedback and opinions. PSM3: Have you and your team ever thought that a PES title every year is too much on next-gen and that by having a game every 2 years, you and your team could address certain issues that need addressing and in turn, you would have more time to work on these issues? Seabass: Yes you're right especially since we have gone into the next-gen console market. We have loads of things we want to do and ideally bringing out a game every 2 years is something that would help us. However we believe that one game per year is the best option as that's something the fans want to see and with the innovation that we have achieved just with PES 2010 alone, I cant see us as a team not making a game every year. PSM3: Do you have any plans to expand the managerial options within PES? As a lot of fans want to see this happen. Seabass: In PES 2010 we improved the strategy side of things, which include the 'sliders' and the 'card system' and I think this is a nice first step in making bigger strides into the management arena. For the first time, the management mode has enough depth that you can change the type of style you want your team to play, and also your player's individual style as well. Of course this is just a small step towards what we want to achieve. There have been some collisions between the manager options and the actual gameplay during development. However with both the sliders and the card system in place, we eventually managed to get a perfect mix of the two. This is just the start of what's to come for this mode as we have big plans for the future. PSM3: Many fans have been talking about this for a while, do you think that we will see a Master League implemented into PES online? Seabass: Yes, we have been thinking about this for a very long time actually but unfortunately it isn't in PES 2010. We have added the Champions League online for PES 2010 and we have also expanded the community mode online, as we know that this is something the fans wanted. We are still exploring the online side but a Master League Online is definitely something we would like to include in future versions of PES. PSM3: Are there any plans to bulk-up the way set-pieces happen? Seabass: Yes. We think that set-pieces play a very important part in games, in the same way management does. We have plans to do this and its one of the things that is top of our list and something that a lot of fans want to see happen. Of course the other tactical aspects will improve the game but this is for sure, something we want to improve. PSM3: What part of the development of PES 2010, did you find the most challenging? Seabass: Well the most difficult part, I would say, is that we didn't want to take away the attacking experience but at the same time, we wanted to change the balance so that the matches don't turn out 4-4 or 5-5 like they have done in previous games. It was very difficult to get the balance just right but I feel we have. Also another was balancing the superstar players. We had to work out how players would be able to stop stars like Messi or Christano Ronaldo. The answer was that, through the sliders and cards, we built in options for more strategic defences that can make sure that players of this quality can be stopped. I would say that this is the main thing that was challenging for me and my team as we needed to get the balance just right. PSM3: What is it that you think that will separate PES 2010 and FIFA 10 this year? Seabass: I went down to the EA booth and played FIFA 10 and it's a good game. However, if you look at the defending for example, there were a lot of instances where the ball carrier ended up one-on-one with the defender and this is something that does not work well with the way real football is played. Our goal this year with PES 2010 was to make the defending side of things actually feel like the defenders are keeping their shape and working as a team. In PES 2010 we have gone for the 'Zone defending' style so its not one to one if you defend or attack. When you are defending you don't always have to attack the ball carrier and its sometimes better to delay the ball carrier as much as possible so that your midfield players can get the tackles in and we feel this is a more realistic approach PSM3: With the Wii version of PES being a success using motion-sensing technology, and with the likes of both Sony and Microsoft developing motion-controlled hardware, do you think that this could be used in a future iteration of PES? Seabass: Yes we have thought about it and we were thinking about how we could implement it into a future version of PES. The good thing about football is that you can use this technology to create some great teamwork within the game and it unlocks an added dimension to movement. Motion controlled technology is a very interesting thing indeed. At the moment though, I'm just experimenting with the technology and it's at a very, very early stage. So at the moment, there is no definite answer to whether I will use this technology for PES in the future. That's your lot - hope you enjoyed it. Reader request! Now you've had some PES love from us, it's time to give a little back. We want to know what you think of both the PES 2010 and FIFA 10 demos that went up on PSN recently. How do they compare? Is one clearly better than the other? Are you thinking of changing camps this year? Tell us now. Finally, apologies for the lack of blogs. We've just come off the deadline from hell. To make it up to you we've made a radical change to the mag that EVERYONE will enjoy and benefit from. Really. We teased it on the Forums a couple of weeks ago, and it has come to fruition. What is it? You'll find out on 30 September... 'Til the next time, have a great weekend, PSM3 __________________ Signature by GlennThomas New PSN ID: LILNAG-- Working on: - Last edited by Rambo313; 10-11-2009 at 06:05 PM.

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Rockets88 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: England, Norwich Posts: 8,286 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 9 (more» ...) View My PS3T Profile	Im sure there has been atleast one or more threads like this Im a fifa guy. PES looks like it still belongs on an old gen console with its poor graphics and gameplay. __________________ Game Review Threads \| Latest Guide: Tomb Raider: Anniversary \| Games That Need Guides & Roadmaps Backlog Plats: Call Of Duty: Black Ops, GTA IV, Dante's Inferno, Demon's Souls, Heavy Rain, Afrika

09-11-2009, 05:37 PM	#4 (permalink)
Rockets88 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: England, Norwich Posts: 8,286 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 9 (more» ...) View My PS3T Profile	lmao the way henry runs. And look at how bad the winger actually crosses the ball, it doesn't even looked like he kicked it. And the way henry shoots is laughable. __________________ Game Review Threads \| Latest Guide: Tomb Raider: Anniversary \| Games That Need Guides & Roadmaps Backlog Plats: Call Of Duty: Black Ops, GTA IV, Dante's Inferno, Demon's Souls, Heavy Rain, Afrika Last edited by Rockets88; 09-11-2009 at 05:38 PM.

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Woody Super Moderator Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Norwich, England Posts: 4,846 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 7 (more» ...) View My PS3T Profile	I've always been a Fifa man and last year PES was awful. __________________

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