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Old 06-08-2012, 05:34 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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That I totally agree with... My only complaint is that you are complaining about others getting the items of someone else online, while you yourself just as much offer to help people online (dunno if it's just co-op, but it says trophies), and glitching to overlevel. I would highly recommend staying away from overleveling, because it doesn't make the game a lot more fun. In fact, it gets boring once you get good at the game.


Yes, I complained in another thread that someone was being nasty to me and a lot of other people. He just isn't nice to a lot of people very often, and that without them having done him anything at all, maybe never talked to them before. A lot of people get confused about what luck and that sword does, so I thought I would be nice and comment that 99 luck probably didn't make the skeleton drop it more often for you (some may even say more rarely). Then I wanted to comment how I found it strange that you complained about people getting stuff from others online, when you yourself used glitches to overlevel.
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1. I am NOT offering online co-op help for any game. I am offering advice to anyone struggling with a particular game, possibly by showing them helpful threads or videos. Hence I am not a hypocrite. I do not agree with "giving" someone the trophies like that, and as such I would not do it.

2. I didn't "overlevel" until NG++ in which I started to get a bit bored so it sped things up. By that point, I had had my fun out of the game to be honest!

3. You summed it up in your third paragraph: doing a lot of levelling up doesn't really help after level 120! Therefore it's not a major benefit! I just think having a friend give you the items online is a quick way to get most of the trophies without bothering to earn them. Though I agree with your point that avoiding World Tendency issues would make it more fun.

4. I followed a guide with Firestorm. It only takes a second or two to cast so it was fine and worked 100% perfectly for me every time. Besides, I don't know if ignite would one-hit kill him every time in NG++.

5. Yeah, that Friend's Ring was a pain! Yeah, I agree with glitching to make it easier, but I sadly disagree with the online part as I don't agree with people getting trophies for just picking things up off the floor from a friend.

Let's just agree to disagree, as everyone is entitled to their own opinion and methods, especially in a game like this!!
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Old 06-08-2012, 06:37 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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If anybody has duped the pure bladestone and is around lvl 56 please drop me one. Psn lazystudent. Message and quote pure stone
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Old 06-17-2012, 03:17 PM   #13 (permalink)
 
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I have no idea if it just a coincidence or not, but both times I have gotten the pure bladestone within 5 or 6 farming runs after loading the game in the Shrine of Storms(secret passage black skeleton).
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Old 06-19-2012, 10:49 PM   #14 (permalink)
 
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I can give it to you if you have NA version and char lvl 100-120

Cant give anny tips because there is no tips when it comes to that damned stone, welll mabe the obvious one like pure black world tendency and dual katana/hidden pasage skeletons but you already know that. Luck/sword of searching aint important becose they have 100% drop anyway.
I did there more then 1000 runs in last few months and i didnt get my drop so..
My friend got it on hes second kill in first playthrough from dual katana one on lvl 50 or soemthink..

Wow, that sucks. I'd say that i picked it up between 25-35 runs. My luck was only @ 12, so I agree it has nothing to do with it.
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Old 06-20-2012, 09:21 AM   #15 (permalink)
 
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I spent 4 hrs trying to gain this stone, then thought I can't be bothered anymore so went somewhere else to do something, then after an hour came back and the BP dropped it on the first go.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:52 PM   #16 (permalink)
 
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Past 3 long days farming at least 4h each, changing from the hidden passage to the BP dual katana near the first reaper going back from 3-3 (Old Monk).

Both ways and nothing. They say the BP dual katana near 3-3 have 0,5% of droping it, it's wrong or math is a lie... Did more than 200 runs, so i should have dropped it at least once, damn.

Are the servers closed?
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:57 PM   #17 (permalink)
 
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You can only get the pure bladestone from world 4-2, 4-3.
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Old 06-27-2012, 02:54 PM   #18 (permalink)
 
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Past 3 long days farming at least 4h each, changing from the hidden passage to the BP dual katana near the first reaper going back from 3-3 (Old Monk).

Both ways and nothing. They say the BP dual katana near 3-3 have 0,5% of droping it, it's wrong or math is a lie... Did more than 200 runs, so i should have dropped it at least once, damn.

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Unfortunately, that's not how probability works. If there is a 0.5% chance of success, and you make 200 attempts, then there is only a 63% probability of success over those trials.

It's like how you can toss a coin twice and fail to get tails, even though the probability of tails is 50%. Just because the number of attempts * probability of success is equal or greater than one does not guarantee success.

Computing the probability of success for this trial can be done relatively easily using the binomial distribution (the wikipedia page has more details). Here's a handy calculator where all you have to do is enter the numbers:

Binomial Calculator

In the first field (prob of success), enter 0.005, enter whatever number you like for 'trials' (e.g., 200), and enter 1 for the number of successes (to find one pure bladestone). The number that is relevant to this discussion is called "Cumulative Probability: P(X >= 1)", which is the probability of finding at least one pure bladestone in that many attempts. Hope this helps relieve your frustration with the game's stinginess.

Yes, the servers are still up. The login message says that they suspended the shutdown until the activity goes down again.
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Old 06-27-2012, 11:27 PM   #19 (permalink)
 
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Yeah, sorry, i would liek to say 4-3, not 3-3...my bad.

Read things about the calcs and still think farming a stupid stone sux, but i appreciate your trying to make all players feel better.

Also, AFTER 6 HOURS of farming today, i got mine !!! Now i can enjoy the NG without worries and just get the best of this marvelous game.
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Old 11-11-2012, 01:43 AM   #20 (permalink)
 
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Yeah, this thing was a pain... I think I spent about 6 hours farming it. Not all in one sitting, of course.
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