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Old 01-12-2012, 02:29 AM   #21 (permalink)
 
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There are approximately 32 missions that award 3 VP per mission; there are 26 blood crucifixes that award 1 VP each; there are approximately 25 missions with coffers, thus providing another 25 VP...

32 x 3 = 96; 96 + 26 = 122; 122 + 25 = 147; 155 VP are required for all upgrades, which means that - if you've already been using a collectible guide - you would only need to find all of the unpurified souls in only 8 of the approximately 25 - 30 missions that offer them in order to finish off the weapon techniques, so the question I would ask back at you is: why wouldn't you upgrade all the weapon techniques in a single playthrough on the easiest difficulty?

In making the guide I made a few assumptions: the first is that most people who played the game would use an available collectible guide right from the very start (because I suspect that most people do this); the second is that - knowing that playing on "easy" would unlock "very hard" - most people would play their first playthrough on "easy"; the third is that most people playing the game might not like it all that much, and would be looking to complete the trophies in the game in the quickest fashion possible...

So, as also originally quoted by Mitsuru Kirijo, errmm, I mean, me:

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You can find all collectibles by replaying chapters, but that's best done on an easier difficulty as you will be forced to find all coffers in a level if you missed even one the first time around and, frankly, on Nightmare you don't want to be wasting your time looking for them. If you have nothing to do but beat each mission on Nightmare you can actually plow through several of the missions in about 10 minutes (each); some will take longer, obviously, but you will be surprised how quickly the game goes when you're not searching for other things.
To me - and as per the site's guidelines for trophy guides -, it's all a question of efficacy: the quickest, least painful way of getting the trophies in the game; again, if a player is playing on easy and following a collectible guide every step of the way, then why wouldn't that player replay the one or two chapters they might have missed a collectible on before moving on to the hardest difficulty in the game?

By pointing out the amount of excess VP you'll have by replaying through the game on Nightmare, you have hit on the reason why I didn't bother with making a guide to find all of the unpurified souls in the game: there are no trophies related to finding them and you don't in fact need to find them at all in order to accrue enough VP for the weapon techniques; but...

But one thing I'm not going to assume is that everyone is going to find the game as easy I did on Nightmare difficulty; like you, I primarily used two-handed weapons and double-wield weapons - specifically the axe and mace combo -, but I can neither predict nor control how people reading my guide are going to play the game; therefore, I don't see any reason - seeing as how likely they are to be that close to completing the weapon techniques by the end of their "easy" playthrough - for them not to have every possible resource at their disposal for their Nightmare playthrough...I feel safe in saying that having as many max'd out weapon techniques at one's disposal on the hardest difficulty is going to facilitate an easier passage through that difficulty.


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I'm not sure if this was in the guide, but assuming you find all of [insert collectible type], you are not required to re-find them on your next playthrough. For example, you procure the first half of coffers on Crusader, then the remaining half on Nightmare--you will earn the trophy.

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Note that you can replay any chapter in the game at any time, so if you miss any collectibles (and, thus, any Victory Points) feel free to replay the level before continuing with the game.
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The hardest difficulty - Nightmare - is locked from the start; Crusader is the easiest difficulty, but completing the game on this difficulty will unlock Nightmare. Once the game has been completed on Crusader, simply choose to replay all chapters via chapter select on Nightmare.
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all of your upgrades - to your character's personal statistics and weapon techniques - carry over to a second playthrough via chapter select
...I felt more than covered the issue of what could be accomplished via chapter select on variable difficulties; I would think that explicitly saying that "you can replay any chapter at any time for the collectibles" would count as more or less saying that they can be found via chapter select across all difficulties in order for the related trophies to unlock; if one missed that, though, I would assume that by inference, at the very least, one could assume that if all of your various upgrades carry over from one difficulty to another then it would be likely that your collectibles would as well.

Anyways, my closing remark is that, yes, you're right, you don't "need" to unlock all of the weapon techniques during a first, "easy" playthrough, but I certainly think it's the most efficacious way of going about unlocking the trophies; and, further, I'm not sure if I can see any virtue for most players in leaving any of them hanging until a second playthrough.
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:42 AM   #22 (permalink)
 
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So I played through the game a second time via chapter select on nightmare and trophy did not pop - Any suggestions?

Could I have missed an episode somewhere? I dont really see how but in the case I did is there a way to tell which episode that might be?
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Old 02-18-2012, 01:55 PM   #23 (permalink)
 
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Did you go through all the chapters including the cinematic ones ?
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Old 02-18-2012, 03:53 PM   #24 (permalink)
 
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Did you go through all the chapters including the cinematic ones ?
Yes - I just started at the beginning and then continued when I would start back up. I am going through any chapter I did not get the cross on and doing it again but getting the cross this time since that seems to be the only way to tell if you actually completed it on nightmare or not. What a pain!!

UPDATE: After finding some info about this on the sister site - I just started the last episode over and over again - not skipping anything and on the third try it popped. Anyway, hope this helps anyone that has a similar issue.

**Thanks for the guide by the way - came in handy.
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Old 04-26-2012, 05:17 AM   #25 (permalink)
 
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For people having a hard time at the chapter 4 mission 6 boss on nightmare. The two handed axe full square combo stuns him and hits enemies that would aim to attack you. I was having a hard time on phase two for it because I couldn't get him stunlocked with other weapons because I messed up the square triangle combos. Full square with 2h axe worked for me though.
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Old 05-10-2012, 07:35 AM   #26 (permalink)
 
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can't beat 3-1 on nightmare. weapons break way too fast and dropped weapons from dead enemies disappear. any tips besides using the cross bow?
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Old 05-11-2012, 09:33 PM   #27 (permalink)
 
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can't beat 3-1 on nightmare. weapons break way too fast and dropped weapons from dead enemies disappear. any tips besides using the cross bow?
This is "The Walls of Constantinople" mission, isn't it? By what you're saying, I assume you're stuck at the beginning, where the waves of enemies keep coming? If that's the case, you can just run away - seriously, you can just run to where the transition from the first part of the level is to where the second part of the level is (where you have to destroy a couple of structures): you may have to defeat a few enemies on the way or a few enemies at the checkpoint, but you can just run ahead of Esteban and the others and just avoid the vast majority of the fighting.
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Old 06-05-2012, 04:56 AM   #28 (permalink)
 
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@Mitsuro Kirijo

Thank you so much for the Arrow tip in the boss fight in 4-3 on Nightmare. I was pulling my hair out trying to win that 2nd part just hacking away. Tried it for a couple hours, then took a break. Saw your tip, gave it a shot and BAM! First try!

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Old 09-19-2012, 02:31 PM   #29 (permalink)
 
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great guide why isn't stickied?
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Do I have to do Co-op with another player to get the plat? Sorry if this is obvious.
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