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Old 05-05-2011, 11:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
 
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Rejoice - being a pedofile is not required to enjoy this game It is an absurdly crass thing they have done to the series thou

Singing magic users = class
Striping to music loli magic users = ...
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Old 05-05-2011, 11:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
 
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Well, I just youtubed this game out of sheer curiosity and at a glance it definitely perpetuates some of the stereotypes I have regarding the Japanese infatuation with underage sex.

I mean, seriously, I'm a big proponent of sex, but putting the face of a prepubescent child on a disproportionally large-breasted, scantily clad body sure makes me feel a bit uncomfortable.
Body types of all kinds exist in the real world too, one of my classmates through my higher education was a very short asian girl would was about half my hieght and older then me. In the end I think its a matter of preconception, if you think its a child and that excites you then you've got a problem, otherwise its whatever floats your boat, just a game after all.

Japan doesn't do itself any favors by being one of the only counties to devot time and resources to animated sex symbols, but alot of the perceptions we have about it being driven by pedofila is probably because its one of the most hienous possible crimes in westen society as well and our media is diffentely super touchy on the sex symbol issue when its not flat and traditional.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:34 AM   #13 (permalink)
 
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Well when you see the Purge Ready during battle, press a trigger button on your controller like R2, R1, L1, or L2 while shaking it with the Sixaxis feature. If you time it right by hitting 1 of the red beats, you should see a clip that shows the Reyvateil persona you're using to lose 1 to 3 layers of clothing from gathering energy from the planet.

Lolis usually refer to anime/manga/game girl characters who are young, underage and are attractive as well as cute. Sometimes a loli may be in a perverted situation(but not always).

Lolicon aka lolita complex refers to people who are really into stuff like that. While some people can become a pedophile for real life little girls while others will just stick with animated lolis. Though I suppose there are some series where you can enjoy having lolis in it but not get a single perverted thought.

With the increase of lolis however, once you play enough Japanese games, watch enough anime, and read enough manga, you pretty much get used to it to the point where you don't think much of it since there's so many series with lolis.

The 1st 2 Ar tonelico games didn't really have a loli feel to it. Well even Ar tonelico Qoga only has a slight loli feel. While Misha did have that loli form in the 1st game, she also had a non-loli true form. 2nd game as well as the 3rd has Cocona who's basically 1 of the youngest characters in the series besides Sasha but doesn't really make it feel like the series is full of lolis. Finnel in this 3rd game has a little less loli feel to her than like say Saki.
well there you go aye, learn something new everyday
I don't really watch any anime or manga or anything like that (I've always preferred cartoons like Gargoyles and Disney movies, etc) but I've always enjoyed RPGs, be they turn based, strategy or real time for their stories and character interactions.

Because I live in Australia, I haven't had the chance to experience many though because they were either not released here or were on PS2 and I didn't know they existed. So this who concept of lolis and stuff is all new to me, haha. I'll pretty much just ignore any of the inappropriate stuff (not that I've seen much so far in any games I've played).
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Old 05-06-2011, 02:44 AM   #14 (permalink)
 
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Because I live in Australia, I haven't had the chance to experience many though because they were either not released here
Amen to that - I had to get the first and second games from italy and france to work on my pal ps2 lol
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Old 05-07-2011, 11:35 AM   #15 (permalink)
 
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Well, I just youtubed this game out of sheer curiosity and at a glance it definitely perpetuates some of the stereotypes I have regarding the Japanese infatuation with underage sex.

I mean, seriously, I'm a big proponent of sex, but putting the face of a prepubescent child on a disproportionally large-breasted, scantily clad body sure makes me feel a bit uncomfortable.
wel the vendor who selled it didnt send it up and now i wont get it. i see its in my gamestore now. but i think change is very small i really gonna buy it. (i already lost 40 euro because that vendor). i still have the feeling it isnt right
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Either way everyone have there own perspective on stuff if u liked it and enjoyed it good for if you didn't then just find something else you can enjoy playing , am an anime fan & i played this game and really liked it.

tbh u can still enjoy this game by focusing ur playing on older character in the game and if you are locked with younger character you can just turn the purge scenes off if it really bother .
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Loli can also be used to describe a older girl who looks like they are signficantly younger. Often in anime/games they are short and have a small bust making them look 5-10 years younger while in reality being 18+. Its often why in visual novels there will be a bar on the back, front, and usually something in the manual saying "All girls in this game are 18+".

In regards to Cocona in the 2nd game, its hard to give her a loli feel since she served as a vanguard character and gave off more a "little sister" feel, specially with her and Croix's interactions.
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In regards to Cocona in the 2nd game, its hard to give her a loli feel since she served as a vanguard character and gave off more a "little sister" feel, specially with her and Croix's interactions.
I would say the genesis of this topic wasn't so much directed at Cocona but probably Finnel and her purge animations, although in the end shes probably not short enough plese the loli fans :P
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I would say the genesis of this topic wasn't so much directed at Cocona but probably Finnel and her purge animations, although in the end shes probably not short enough plese the loli fans :P
wel yes that was what worried me. i just recieved this game (today) and will turn of the purge animations.
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